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welcome back to the channel guys

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i've been away i think for about eight

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days since i did my last show which i

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believe is the longest break i've had

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since doing this show in

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just over a year now it's crazy to think

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it's been over a year since i've been

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doing this so

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i'm really happy to be back the weekend

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just gone i was at the awakening expo in

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blackpool which was awesome it was my

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first conference

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i was there representing uap media uk it

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was amazing

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but that's another story um i want to

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get straight into this one because it's

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always an amazing conversation with my

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guest tonight here it's been about 10

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months since he was last on the show

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so a lot has happened in that time so

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let's jump straight up into it and let

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me welcome mr steve bassett steve how

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are you

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benny it's great to be with you uh i

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hope everything is well on the other

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side of the pond

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it's good congratulations to the queen

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all as well

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yep excellent excellent just a quick

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message for the people in the live chat

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if you do have any questions i've no i

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noticed some people have already dropped

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some in and i've put them to one side

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for later but as the uh the show's going

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on if you pop them in capital letters

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that will help me see them clearly and

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then again i can put a little star next

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to them and ask them at the right

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relevant time maybe during the interview

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it may be towards the end but

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uh that would be that would be great and

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helpful for me

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so steve like i said it's been 10 months

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since we spoke we've had so many things

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happening in the community in that time

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we had towards the end of last year the

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ndaa announced with uh for fiscal year

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22 the gila brand amendment aoi msg

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and then into this year with the

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hearings so let's jump back to last year

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with the announcement

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of the ndaa how did that feel for you at

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uh i've been at this quite a while now

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26 years

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nothing that's happening is

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overwhelming

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you know it's like it's like knowing

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about your surprise birthday party uh

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eight months in advance

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everything we're seeing now

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is the result of developments five years

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which i can't believe it's been five

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years the anniversary of which is coming

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up in a few months and that is

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as a result of

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the efforts of certain individuals

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who were part of a organ a a new

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organization that was formed and

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announced in october of 2017

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to the stars academy

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some article some information was

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delivered to the new york times uh that

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and then uh the next day online all

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right and these of course the articles

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a program which was nicknamed atip

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advanced aerospace studio identification

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program uh but the actual formal name

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asap i don't want to go there but that

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uh and then of course and most

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all activities of these planes in other

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to check out a bogey or an unidentified

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aerial phenomena they film it right

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for 70 years all right i don't know if

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documentaries about world war ii we have

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of they're actually in in battle right

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and they're they're showing film right

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pods on the plane instead of a gun right

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a very large number of these film clips

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right where the uk sends up a plane to

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quote clips records of a uh a uap

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intercept are in the files these

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countries we don't know but it is a big

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and you may say well if that's the case

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why have only three been released to the

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public in 75 years because these

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its allies and countries know

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china knows and soviet union and russia

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these things the truth embargo would end

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uh it would end it pretty quick and

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uh they have to remain in the vault

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very long time the average citizen of

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the of most countries they don't they

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don't they don't understand this they

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know that such things are done but they

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as part of news articles and god knows

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what all over the world have been seen

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could over the last five years

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contributing as well as i could and

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watching this whole issue

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as opposed to everything prior to 2017

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and so what's happening now is what

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said world war ii i met the cold war

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for us finally to get to the place where

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we're now in a somewhat normal situation

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with respect to the reality

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am i tired oh you better believe it

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uh so that that's the answer to the

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a picture i don't want to get into the

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do the granular details here because i

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think most of your audience is like

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whatever i can definitely

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that they need to have to really

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understand what's going on and where

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do you feel that towards when we saw the

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msg which which was very it's it seemed

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did you did you worry about that at all

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fact that many many people who are in

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involved in a direct way they may have a

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and of course social media god bless it

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which i'm on believe me i'm i'm i can't

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follow me folks follow me um i

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understand why they're they're viewing

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some of this with consternation i don't

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have that problem and

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and the reason is simply this i've been

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following it for 26 years focused

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primarily not on the phenomena

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not on what do we tease look like and

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how did their craft run and all that but

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but rather the politics of it the

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historical process

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and and how that's all playing out and

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ultimately for me it's all about the

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troop embargo and ending that truth

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embargo and so because of all that time

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and uh the context of what's happening

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now is relatively clear to me but

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probably not to most people

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and so with respect to these actions uh

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that you're referring to

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this is just part of the normalization

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process that's going on meaning what

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it reflects

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though one can say back in 1968 and 1966

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when two one day hearings were held on

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capitol hill for a couple of witnesses

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to come on and talk about the phenomena

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and then it was over and the

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government's attitude is don't bother us

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ever again

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this is now the first time there has

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been a normal

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uh interaction uh on this issue

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appropriate to the issue which is to say

289
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that the congress finally stepped in

290
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two years ago and that uh that happened

291
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the formerly stepped in

292
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when uh marco rubio the chairman of the

293
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our senate intel committee the most

294
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powerful important committee i think in

295
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the us congress

296
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um

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put language in the uh appropriations

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bill

299
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it was not it was not in the enumerated

300
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section it was in the comment section so

301
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it was not a a legal demand but it was

302
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clearly uh yeah you got to do this uh

303
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calling for

304
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uh the the a report

305
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to be delivered uh nine months six

306
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months after the signing of the bill

307
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which ended up being a deadline of june

308
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25 2021

309
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um

310
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back to the congress and to the public

311
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and this was a big deal

312
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because that had never happened before

313
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really

314
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and so that was the beginning of the

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political

316
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engagement

317
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since then uh there has been a back and

318
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forth between

319
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the the congress

320
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uh the senate as well as the house

321
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the intel committee uh involving

322
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language and three different bills

323
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uh and then the the department of

324
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defense responded and then the congress

325
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responded and it's been going back and

326
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forth which is normal yeah that's

327
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exactly the way things are supposed to

328
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be all right

329
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so uh now

330
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in terms of

331
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what the congress has done and what

332
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members of congress have said

333
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which is unprecedented

334
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uh you have now on the record

335
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quite a few members of the us congress

336
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speaking directly to the issue or taking

337
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uh

338
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actual formal action marco rubio

339
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senator

340
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uh

341
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mark warner senator reuben gallego

342
00:13:24,150 --> 00:13:21,519
congressman tim burchett congressman

343
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uh andre carson congressman

344
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uh these are these are people that are

345
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taking formal actions and making direct

346
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statements about the uap issue

347
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uh in just the last two years all right

348
00:13:38,470 --> 00:13:35,839
and so

349
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that is going on and people are trying

350
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to understand

351
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why this why that why did they do this

352
00:13:47,670 --> 00:13:45,920
why did the dod dod do this and and and

353
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for people that have some knowledge

354
00:13:50,710 --> 00:13:49,040
about this issue

355
00:13:53,269 --> 00:13:50,720
as do you watch this they're scratching

356
00:13:55,590 --> 00:13:53,279
their head and going i get that doesn't

357
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that doesn't make sense all right that's

358
00:13:59,430 --> 00:13:57,120
they shouldn't have done that or the

359
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appropriate reaction should be this and

360
00:14:02,870 --> 00:14:01,600
so they're getting frustrated and then

361
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of course

362
00:14:05,750 --> 00:14:04,320
generally the people out there that are

363
00:14:07,590 --> 00:14:05,760
really following the issue they may not

364
00:14:08,949 --> 00:14:07,600
be directly involved but they want to

365
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know the truth

366
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their their attitude is just tell us the

367
00:14:14,629 --> 00:14:12,560
truth right

368
00:14:15,990 --> 00:14:14,639
just stop the silly

369
00:14:17,829 --> 00:14:16,000
fiddle faddling and back and forth just

370
00:14:18,710 --> 00:14:17,839
tell us the damn truth right what's your

371
00:14:20,629 --> 00:14:18,720
problem

372
00:14:21,910 --> 00:14:20,639
they get it okay so they're frustrated

373
00:14:22,870 --> 00:14:21,920
they're confused

374
00:14:26,069 --> 00:14:22,880
well

375
00:14:28,069 --> 00:14:26,079
my job is to solve all that for them to

376
00:14:30,069 --> 00:14:28,079
to put that at risk put them in ease and

377
00:14:31,750 --> 00:14:30,079
allow them to go back to a nice normal

378
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life while they follow this amazing

379
00:14:35,509 --> 00:14:33,600
process that's my job

380
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that's why i've given

381
00:14:41,750 --> 00:14:38,639
in just the last two years alone 100 and

382
00:14:43,269 --> 00:14:41,760
maybe 45 interviews of which this is the

383
00:14:45,430 --> 00:14:43,279
latest okay

384
00:14:47,670 --> 00:14:45,440
uh i'm looking forward to a larger

385
00:14:50,550 --> 00:14:47,680
audience i'm working my way slowly back

386
00:14:52,710 --> 00:14:50,560
onto cnn and msnbc and fox news or

387
00:14:55,910 --> 00:14:52,720
whatever i'm working there not there yet

388
00:14:59,189 --> 00:14:55,920
but i'll get there eventually okay

389
00:15:01,829 --> 00:14:59,199
so what am i trying to say here

390
00:15:06,389 --> 00:15:01,839
here's what i'm trying to say

391
00:15:09,829 --> 00:15:06,399
what everyone in this world is watching

392
00:15:12,470 --> 00:15:09,839
is not the united states or the uk or

393
00:15:14,949 --> 00:15:12,480
any other government suddenly figuring

394
00:15:17,350 --> 00:15:14,959
out or realizing wait a minute there

395
00:15:19,590 --> 00:15:17,360
there's a phenomena going on and we

396
00:15:20,470 --> 00:15:19,600
don't fully understand it

397
00:15:22,949 --> 00:15:20,480
and

398
00:15:25,590 --> 00:15:22,959
we probably should address that

399
00:15:29,110 --> 00:15:25,600
we should do some appropriate things

400
00:15:29,990 --> 00:15:29,120
we should uh set up a a task force we

401
00:15:34,790 --> 00:15:30,000
should

402
00:15:37,509 --> 00:15:34,800
take appropriate legislative action we

403
00:15:40,949 --> 00:15:37,519
should conduct oversight that is not

404
00:15:43,189 --> 00:15:40,959
what is going on okay let me be

405
00:15:45,269 --> 00:15:43,199
emphatically clear i can't be any more

406
00:15:47,590 --> 00:15:45,279
clearer than this

407
00:15:49,749 --> 00:15:47,600
the united states government

408
00:15:50,949 --> 00:15:49,759
the united kingdom

409
00:15:53,030 --> 00:15:50,959
france

410
00:15:55,350 --> 00:15:53,040
canada australia

411
00:15:58,150 --> 00:15:55,360
soviet union russia

412
00:15:59,990 --> 00:15:58,160
china and throw in you know most of the

413
00:16:03,030 --> 00:16:00,000
germany

414
00:16:04,790 --> 00:16:03,040
every one of these countries

415
00:16:07,030 --> 00:16:04,800
has known

416
00:16:09,990 --> 00:16:07,040
that there is an extraterrestrial

417
00:16:10,949 --> 00:16:10,000
non-human phenomena underway

418
00:16:15,030 --> 00:16:10,959
since

419
00:16:16,710 --> 00:16:15,040
no later than 1947 or within a year or

420
00:16:18,870 --> 00:16:16,720
two of that

421
00:16:21,590 --> 00:16:18,880
all right let me repeat that

422
00:16:23,110 --> 00:16:21,600
all of these countries now by that i

423
00:16:24,150 --> 00:16:23,120
don't mean every single person running

424
00:16:25,749 --> 00:16:24,160
around

425
00:16:27,110 --> 00:16:25,759
you know

426
00:16:28,710 --> 00:16:27,120
in in the government in the uk or

427
00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:28,720
anywhere else is oh yeah it knows about

428
00:16:32,150 --> 00:16:30,240
this no i'm saying that there are people

429
00:16:34,150 --> 00:16:32,160
within every one of these governments

430
00:16:36,870 --> 00:16:34,160
who are fully aware of this it's their

431
00:16:38,949 --> 00:16:36,880
job to know that they are in the know

432
00:16:41,910 --> 00:16:38,959
they are informed and quite a few others

433
00:16:44,389 --> 00:16:41,920
within these governments who may not be

434
00:16:46,470 --> 00:16:44,399
quote on a need to know basis they may

435
00:16:49,189 --> 00:16:46,480
not be involved in a specific program

436
00:16:51,189 --> 00:16:49,199
related to uap or et

437
00:16:52,870 --> 00:16:51,199
but they they figured it out or they've

438
00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:52,880
been tipped off at a cocktail party by

439
00:16:56,150 --> 00:16:54,560
one of their close friends right so they

440
00:16:57,350 --> 00:16:56,160
know it but that doesn't mean they're

441
00:17:00,310 --> 00:16:57,360
involved and they're certainly not going

442
00:17:03,030 --> 00:17:00,320
to talk about it every one of those

443
00:17:08,870 --> 00:17:03,040
countries and every one of those

444
00:17:13,029 --> 00:17:10,150
film

445
00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:13,039
of this phenomena taken from their

446
00:17:19,909 --> 00:17:16,720
defense airplanes designed to defend and

447
00:17:22,789 --> 00:17:19,919
and check out all activity within their

448
00:17:25,429 --> 00:17:22,799
sovereign airspace every one of them has

449
00:17:28,789 --> 00:17:25,439
gun camera clips clips like

450
00:17:29,750 --> 00:17:28,799
the gimbal like the tic tac in their

451
00:17:31,830 --> 00:17:29,760
vaults

452
00:17:33,350 --> 00:17:31,840
all right again i want that to sink into

453
00:17:37,909 --> 00:17:33,360
people okay

454
00:17:41,350 --> 00:17:39,029
why is it

455
00:17:42,950 --> 00:17:41,360
why now why not

456
00:17:45,029 --> 00:17:42,960
much earlier

457
00:17:48,150 --> 00:17:45,039
simple

458
00:17:51,510 --> 00:17:48,160
there has been since the late 1940s

459
00:17:55,110 --> 00:17:51,520
matured and developed in the early 1950s

460
00:17:57,750 --> 00:17:55,120
fully institutionalized by the 1960s

461
00:17:59,669 --> 00:17:57,760
absolutely solidly institutionalized as

462
00:18:02,230 --> 00:17:59,679
the cold war develops

463
00:18:05,350 --> 00:18:02,240
a policy of what i call started calling

464
00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:05,360
and i think around 2000 a truth embargo

465
00:18:09,350 --> 00:18:06,640
a formal

466
00:18:11,110 --> 00:18:09,360
national security-based policy

467
00:18:13,430 --> 00:18:11,120
that the

468
00:18:15,430 --> 00:18:13,440
acknowledgement of this issue formally

469
00:18:17,750 --> 00:18:15,440
would not happen

470
00:18:20,230 --> 00:18:17,760
that uh

471
00:18:22,950 --> 00:18:20,240
efforts would be made to minimize the

472
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:22,960
ability of journalists or academics

473
00:18:25,590 --> 00:18:23,760
uh

474
00:18:28,789 --> 00:18:25,600
anybody with money or just a general

475
00:18:29,990 --> 00:18:28,799
population to quote change that

476
00:18:33,510 --> 00:18:30,000
narrative

477
00:18:35,270 --> 00:18:33,520
or to infer otherwise would be taken

478
00:18:37,029 --> 00:18:35,280
and that the formal formal

479
00:18:39,350 --> 00:18:37,039
acknowledgement subject would be

480
00:18:42,390 --> 00:18:39,360
institutionalized until uh i'm sorry

481
00:18:44,630 --> 00:18:42,400
would be embargoed until such time

482
00:18:47,909 --> 00:18:44,640
as the governments felt it was

483
00:18:51,029 --> 00:18:47,919
appropriate for their citizens to know

484
00:18:53,909 --> 00:18:51,039
what they have known since the 1940s

485
00:18:57,510 --> 00:18:53,919
that policy used to be referred to still

486
00:18:59,430 --> 00:18:57,520
is occasionally as the ufo cover-up

487
00:19:00,549 --> 00:18:59,440
we've worked very hard to get away from

488
00:19:04,070 --> 00:19:00,559
that term

489
00:19:06,070 --> 00:19:04,080
it's bad for two reasons one ufo is not

490
00:19:09,110 --> 00:19:06,080
what this is it's it well let me put it

491
00:19:12,390 --> 00:19:09,120
this way ufo is a is a corrupted term

492
00:19:15,750 --> 00:19:12,400
deliberately corrupted term to symbolize

493
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:15,760
the uh the ridicule the disdain and the

494
00:19:19,990 --> 00:19:17,600
dismissal of this issue and so if you

495
00:19:21,510 --> 00:19:20,000
want to talk ufos you might as well just

496
00:19:23,750 --> 00:19:21,520
leave the room because nobody wants to

497
00:19:25,830 --> 00:19:23,760
hear what you have to say uh so we had

498
00:19:28,230 --> 00:19:25,840
to get rid of that and we've we finally

499
00:19:30,789 --> 00:19:28,240
successfully established uap as the

500
00:19:33,270 --> 00:19:30,799
proper term means exactly the same thing

501
00:19:35,430 --> 00:19:33,280
cover-up was wrong because the policy

502
00:19:37,430 --> 00:19:35,440
from the beginning was legal

503
00:19:39,029 --> 00:19:37,440
legal in the uk legal in france legal

504
00:19:41,669 --> 00:19:39,039
and canada illegal in the united states

505
00:19:44,470 --> 00:19:41,679
it was a legal national security policy

506
00:19:47,669 --> 00:19:44,480
same just as legal is the reason why we

507
00:19:50,870 --> 00:19:47,679
don't give public tours of our active

508
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:50,880
icbm sites you know meaning come on down

509
00:19:54,549 --> 00:19:52,480
and uh you know check it out right

510
00:19:56,710 --> 00:19:54,559
here's here's here is where the launch

511
00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:56,720
stuff happens and here is some you know

512
00:20:00,950 --> 00:19:58,640
what no we don't do that it was a

513
00:20:02,710 --> 00:20:00,960
nationals it was legal and you do not

514
00:20:03,750 --> 00:20:02,720
cover up people

515
00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:03,760
and if you're trying to get the

516
00:20:07,909 --> 00:20:05,600
cooperation of the government to change

517
00:20:10,230 --> 00:20:07,919
their policy it's best not to

518
00:20:12,310 --> 00:20:10,240
inappropriately uh

519
00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:12,320
uh criminalize them meaning you all guys

520
00:20:15,750 --> 00:20:14,320
are criminals you you you're you're you

521
00:20:17,669 --> 00:20:15,760
all should be in jail

522
00:20:20,310 --> 00:20:17,679
you know you're operating a cover-up

523
00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:20,320
okay no no no no and so it's truth

524
00:20:29,270 --> 00:20:21,760
embargo

525
00:20:32,710 --> 00:20:29,280
to an end

526
00:20:35,669 --> 00:20:32,720
and that therein lies the problem and

527
00:20:37,190 --> 00:20:35,679
the confusion and the upset and the

528
00:20:38,070 --> 00:20:37,200
irritation

529
00:20:39,669 --> 00:20:38,080
why

530
00:20:41,830 --> 00:20:39,679
okay

531
00:20:43,430 --> 00:20:41,840
what we're seeing now

532
00:20:46,470 --> 00:20:43,440
is the process

533
00:20:49,669 --> 00:20:46,480
that is going to end the truth embargo

534
00:20:51,190 --> 00:20:49,679
and that process is now not simply the

535
00:20:53,669 --> 00:20:51,200
effort of

536
00:20:55,750 --> 00:20:53,679
the activists and disgruntled citizens

537
00:20:57,830 --> 00:20:55,760
and the researchers who figured out long

538
00:20:59,990 --> 00:20:57,840
ago that this is e.t and they know the

539
00:21:02,470 --> 00:21:00,000
proof is piled up to the ceiling

540
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:02,480
no this process now has the cooperation

541
00:21:07,350 --> 00:21:05,760
and involvement of our institutions

542
00:21:10,710 --> 00:21:07,360
high-end journalists

543
00:21:13,270 --> 00:21:10,720
academics the senate the congress the

544
00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:13,280
air force the navy and the department of

545
00:21:17,590 --> 00:21:14,960
defense

546
00:21:20,789 --> 00:21:17,600
they're now involved in this too okay

547
00:21:23,110 --> 00:21:20,799
well good all right well fine then then

548
00:21:24,630 --> 00:21:23,120
let's just get it done ah

549
00:21:27,750 --> 00:21:24,640
and and let's just do it rip the

550
00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:27,760
band-aid off let's get it done no

551
00:21:33,590 --> 00:21:30,880
the process is complicated and difficult

552
00:21:35,590 --> 00:21:33,600
for a myriad of reasons

553
00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:35,600
and the best way i can point that out is

554
00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:37,760
this

555
00:21:40,870 --> 00:21:38,880
when

556
00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:40,880
you know governments lie we all know

557
00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:42,159
that

558
00:21:45,750 --> 00:21:44,240
governments do stupid stuff and we all

559
00:21:48,549 --> 00:21:45,760
know that right

560
00:21:49,669 --> 00:21:48,559
uh sometimes they do evil things even

561
00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:49,679
when they're

562
00:21:54,470 --> 00:21:52,480
good governments right democracy with

563
00:21:56,549 --> 00:21:54,480
moral standing and all that stuff and

564
00:21:58,630 --> 00:21:56,559
then there's really awful countries that

565
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:58,640
do evil stuff on a daily basis and can

566
00:22:02,230 --> 00:22:01,039
care less we know that too

567
00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:02,240
all right

568
00:22:05,029 --> 00:22:03,120
so

569
00:22:07,830 --> 00:22:05,039
the situation now

570
00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:07,840
is the united states in particular

571
00:22:12,710 --> 00:22:09,919
it's we're carrying that burden but it's

572
00:22:14,230 --> 00:22:12,720
also the case for the uk and brazil and

573
00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:14,240
canada and china and those other

574
00:22:18,070 --> 00:22:16,080
governments but they

575
00:22:19,669 --> 00:22:18,080
we're the one carrying the burden

576
00:22:21,669 --> 00:22:19,679
that's that we could go into the reasons

577
00:22:23,350 --> 00:22:21,679
for that but we're we're basically at

578
00:22:26,390 --> 00:22:23,360
the point of the spear here figuring

579
00:22:29,909 --> 00:22:26,400
this out getting this done

580
00:22:32,230 --> 00:22:29,919
when you have been lying to the world

581
00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:32,240
about probably the most important piece

582
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:34,720
of information the world

583
00:22:40,310 --> 00:22:36,799
will ever receive

584
00:22:42,630 --> 00:22:40,320
and you've been lying for 75 years when

585
00:22:45,830 --> 00:22:42,640
you have you have you have taken

586
00:22:47,750 --> 00:22:45,840
significant measures to undermine the

587
00:22:49,909 --> 00:22:47,760
efforts of the public to get at the

588
00:22:52,310 --> 00:22:49,919
information when you've done some things

589
00:22:54,149 --> 00:22:52,320
which probably are illegal but

590
00:22:56,390 --> 00:22:54,159
ultimately will be justified under

591
00:22:58,710 --> 00:22:56,400
national security protocols

592
00:23:00,789 --> 00:22:58,720
when you have been screwing around with

593
00:23:02,390 --> 00:23:00,799
reality at this level

594
00:23:04,710 --> 00:23:02,400
for that long

595
00:23:05,750 --> 00:23:04,720
it's not like one day you can just say

596
00:23:11,029 --> 00:23:05,760
sorry

597
00:23:12,789 --> 00:23:11,039
you know you know

598
00:23:15,110 --> 00:23:12,799
it's like yeah it was national security

599
00:23:17,270 --> 00:23:15,120
what can i say okay it's like

600
00:23:19,350 --> 00:23:17,280
that's what we had to do okay let's move

601
00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:19,360
on

602
00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:22,080
with the way that things have been been

603
00:23:26,390 --> 00:23:23,760
going in the last few years within the

604
00:23:28,149 --> 00:23:26,400
world that surely russia may well have

605
00:23:30,149 --> 00:23:28,159
come come forward and said well we're

606
00:23:32,789 --> 00:23:30,159
going to be the ones to take the lead in

607
00:23:35,669 --> 00:23:32,799
this and disclose before the us

608
00:23:37,590 --> 00:23:35,679
absolutely uh when i say the process i'm

609
00:23:39,990 --> 00:23:37,600
referring to is the one that's going on

610
00:23:42,710 --> 00:23:40,000
now okay and it's now been going on for

611
00:23:44,470 --> 00:23:42,720
five years that's the process there

612
00:23:47,430 --> 00:23:44,480
there could technically be other

613
00:23:49,669 --> 00:23:47,440
parallel processes underway i don't see

614
00:23:51,830 --> 00:23:49,679
them i mean there could be a process in

615
00:23:53,830 --> 00:23:51,840
russia right now where we're seeing a

616
00:23:56,149 --> 00:23:53,840
back and forth and this coming out no

617
00:23:58,310 --> 00:23:56,159
what we're seeing is russia trying to

618
00:24:00,710 --> 00:23:58,320
regain its glory uh that it once had

619
00:24:01,990 --> 00:24:00,720
under peter the great uh we could see

620
00:24:04,950 --> 00:24:02,000
this proc there could be a similar

621
00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:04,960
process in china but no that they don't

622
00:24:07,909 --> 00:24:06,640
want to go there and they're not going

623
00:24:11,830 --> 00:24:07,919
there they're they're involved in other

624
00:24:13,750 --> 00:24:11,840
things uh the uk can't china okay there

625
00:24:15,909 --> 00:24:13,760
is a little thing going on in brazil

626
00:24:18,710 --> 00:24:15,919
okay recently they actually had some

627
00:24:20,470 --> 00:24:18,720
testimony uh to their senate it was the

628
00:24:22,549 --> 00:24:20,480
first time that any witness on the

629
00:24:23,669 --> 00:24:22,559
nuclear weapons tampering

630
00:24:25,990 --> 00:24:23,679
phenomena

631
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:26,000
testified before any legislative body

632
00:24:29,669 --> 00:24:27,760
that was robert salas he waited i don't

633
00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:29,679
know 30 years for that

634
00:24:33,350 --> 00:24:31,520
it should have been our our congress

635
00:24:35,269 --> 00:24:33,360
first but it ended up being brazil

636
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:35,279
because we we're a little slow and we

637
00:24:38,870 --> 00:24:37,120
have a little harder problem here but

638
00:24:40,310 --> 00:24:38,880
really the process is in the united

639
00:24:42,549 --> 00:24:40,320
states so that's the one i'm referring

640
00:24:44,830 --> 00:24:42,559
to at any time another country could

641
00:24:47,510 --> 00:24:44,840
step in and say

642
00:24:49,350 --> 00:24:47,520
uh excuse us uh

643
00:24:53,590 --> 00:24:49,360
press could you come over here please uh

644
00:24:55,830 --> 00:24:53,600
yes yes yes i'm boris johnson

645
00:24:57,110 --> 00:24:55,840
and i i actually got a haircut for this

646
00:24:59,590 --> 00:24:57,120
this actually

647
00:25:01,350 --> 00:24:59,600
so that i would look very spiffy uh you

648
00:25:02,549 --> 00:25:01,360
know i i think all this dilly dallying

649
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:02,559
going on in the universe is really

650
00:25:05,750 --> 00:25:04,080
really constant

651
00:25:08,070 --> 00:25:05,760
you know creating concentration so i'm

652
00:25:11,190 --> 00:25:08,080
just going to resolve the issue

653
00:25:15,669 --> 00:25:11,200
uh we are about to release to a 450 gun

654
00:25:16,789 --> 00:25:15,679
camera clips eclipse of our fine uh uk

655
00:25:20,070 --> 00:25:16,799
uh

656
00:25:21,990 --> 00:25:20,080
planes um of this phenomena right doing

657
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,000
the kinds of things that you have been

658
00:25:25,830 --> 00:25:24,240
seeing lately all over the damn place

659
00:25:27,190 --> 00:25:25,840
and uh i'm going to be able to now

660
00:25:28,789 --> 00:25:27,200
confirm to you that yes this is

661
00:25:31,830 --> 00:25:28,799
extraterrestrial

662
00:25:34,950 --> 00:25:31,840
those are those are not from you know uh

663
00:25:36,390 --> 00:25:34,960
portugal uh and so uh i'm the disclosure

664
00:25:39,590 --> 00:25:36,400
prime minister okay

665
00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,600
at any time that could happen i if that

666
00:25:43,990 --> 00:25:41,440
starts to happen i will love it it will

667
00:25:45,510 --> 00:25:44,000
be fun to watch boris how you doing i

668
00:25:47,350 --> 00:25:45,520
hope things get better for you i know

669
00:25:50,310 --> 00:25:47,360
you're having a rough time but trust me

670
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:50,320
we're having a rough time here too so uh

671
00:25:53,830 --> 00:25:52,559
but i want to talk about the process

672
00:25:56,630 --> 00:25:53,840
underway

673
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:56,640
here all right yeah so

674
00:25:59,430 --> 00:25:58,000
again

675
00:26:01,110 --> 00:25:59,440
what you're seeing

676
00:26:03,510 --> 00:26:01,120
is

677
00:26:06,190 --> 00:26:03,520
american institutions

678
00:26:09,430 --> 00:26:06,200
trying to now get out from under the

679
00:26:12,630 --> 00:26:09,440
75-year truth embargo

680
00:26:13,510 --> 00:26:12,640
and that is not you can't simply do it

681
00:26:15,110 --> 00:26:13,520
it it

682
00:26:17,590 --> 00:26:15,120
somebody just can't walk forward and do

683
00:26:20,149 --> 00:26:17,600
it it has to be done in a way

684
00:26:23,190 --> 00:26:20,159
that is going to be responsible

685
00:26:25,510 --> 00:26:23,200
uh minimally destructive or disruptive

686
00:26:27,590 --> 00:26:25,520
it would be nice if it made you know

687
00:26:30,149 --> 00:26:27,600
people look good trying to be nice if

688
00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:30,159
the dod kind of kind of came out of it

689
00:26:34,149 --> 00:26:31,919
looking okay or the air for the air

690
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:34,159
force is screwed but the navy would be

691
00:26:38,470 --> 00:26:36,080
nice that the congress was looking good

692
00:26:40,630 --> 00:26:38,480
and members of congress uh it would be

693
00:26:42,789 --> 00:26:40,640
nice if the witnesses were able to to

694
00:26:45,029 --> 00:26:42,799
come forward all of this

695
00:26:46,710 --> 00:26:45,039
and and then it would be nice if the

696
00:26:48,310 --> 00:26:46,720
president

697
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:48,320
could then come forward to make the

698
00:26:52,950 --> 00:26:50,000
confirmation in this case it would be

699
00:26:53,830 --> 00:26:52,960
joseph robin at biden uh

700
00:26:56,710 --> 00:26:53,840
in a

701
00:26:58,630 --> 00:26:56,720
way that is not too political and and

702
00:27:02,070 --> 00:26:58,640
and positive and constructive

703
00:27:05,190 --> 00:27:02,080
that's what they're trying to do

704
00:27:07,269 --> 00:27:05,200
and here is their dilemma

705
00:27:09,269 --> 00:27:07,279
it's not easy

706
00:27:13,110 --> 00:27:09,279
and in order to end

707
00:27:14,390 --> 00:27:13,120
this truth embargo this huge lie this

708
00:27:19,510 --> 00:27:14,400
big lie

709
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:19,520
in the uk that we're dealing with a big

710
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:21,039
lie in the united states right now

711
00:27:24,710 --> 00:27:22,559
another big lie

712
00:27:28,149 --> 00:27:24,720
and it's and it's causing a significant

713
00:27:30,630 --> 00:27:28,159
amount of problems in fact at times it

714
00:27:31,510 --> 00:27:30,640
is dominating the u.s media it's that

715
00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:31,520
big

716
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:34,240
okay fine whatever uh whatever one's

717
00:27:39,350 --> 00:27:36,320
opinion is about that what i just said

718
00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:39,360
is true but let me make it clear the big

719
00:27:45,110 --> 00:27:41,600
lie regarding the reality of an

720
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:45,120
extraterrestrial presence is way

721
00:27:50,470 --> 00:27:48,000
bigger than the current big lie okay

722
00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:50,480
take that big lie multiply it by about

723
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:53,120
500 and you're dealing with the level of

724
00:27:58,470 --> 00:27:55,760
lie that i'm talking about all right

725
00:28:06,870 --> 00:27:59,590
in

726
00:28:09,590 --> 00:28:06,880
right now let me restate that

727
00:28:11,909 --> 00:28:09,600
in other words in order to

728
00:28:14,230 --> 00:28:11,919
get out from under the big lie they're

729
00:28:16,789 --> 00:28:14,240
going to have to lie a little bit more

730
00:28:19,190 --> 00:28:16,799
but to greater purpose

731
00:28:21,190 --> 00:28:19,200
now some people purists are going to go

732
00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:21,200
well let's just not accept

733
00:28:25,669 --> 00:28:23,600
right that is not acceptable we want the

734
00:28:27,430 --> 00:28:25,679
government to take the stand

735
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,440
he wanted to take it oak

736
00:28:31,029 --> 00:28:29,279
we wanted to tell the truth the whole

737
00:28:33,110 --> 00:28:31,039
truth and nothing but the truth we want

738
00:28:35,510 --> 00:28:33,120
that next week thank you very much and

739
00:28:36,870 --> 00:28:35,520
let the consequences be damned

740
00:28:37,909 --> 00:28:36,880
and the government is saying to those

741
00:28:39,669 --> 00:28:37,919
people

742
00:28:41,909 --> 00:28:39,679
sorry that's not where it's going to

743
00:28:45,110 --> 00:28:41,919
happen okay right yeah you're going to

744
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:45,120
have to get real this is the real world

745
00:28:48,389 --> 00:28:46,559
all right so

746
00:28:51,110 --> 00:28:48,399
what we're seeing

747
00:28:53,029 --> 00:28:51,120
is a lot of people

748
00:28:55,750 --> 00:28:53,039
like members of congress names that i

749
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:55,760
guess gave earlier yeah like staffers

750
00:29:01,350 --> 00:28:58,640
and high-level people at the pentagon

751
00:29:03,830 --> 00:29:01,360
uh like witnesses

752
00:29:06,710 --> 00:29:03,840
like operatives like louis elizondo and

753
00:29:09,430 --> 00:29:06,720
uh and christopher mellon and so forth

754
00:29:12,470 --> 00:29:09,440
and former members of the government now

755
00:29:15,909 --> 00:29:12,480
retired but with substantial gravitas

756
00:29:18,070 --> 00:29:15,919
and and and resume like john radcliffe

757
00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:18,080
and james woolsey

758
00:29:22,630 --> 00:29:20,000
and brennan and so forth former cia

759
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:22,640
directors nationals uh you know homeland

760
00:29:26,950 --> 00:29:24,880
security directors so forth stepping

761
00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:26,960
into the issue academics like avi lopes

762
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:29,200
stepping into the issue

763
00:29:34,630 --> 00:29:31,279
what we're seeing is people

764
00:29:37,029 --> 00:29:34,640
trying to now do the right thing but

765
00:29:39,750 --> 00:29:37,039
with limitations

766
00:29:41,669 --> 00:29:39,760
all right in other words

767
00:29:44,389 --> 00:29:41,679
we're going to have to do this but i

768
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:44,399
can't say that i've got a non-disclosure

769
00:29:49,029 --> 00:29:46,960
agreement regarding that we can't go

770
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:49,039
there we can't do this now it has to

771
00:29:54,389 --> 00:29:52,480
wait we we have to hedge our statements

772
00:29:56,310 --> 00:29:54,399
we have to hedge our bets

773
00:30:00,230 --> 00:29:56,320
and in fact we're gonna have to outright

774
00:30:02,549 --> 00:30:00,240
lie in order to get this done

775
00:30:04,950 --> 00:30:02,559
now i'm okay with that

776
00:30:07,510 --> 00:30:04,960
all right i'm perfectly okay with that

777
00:30:09,430 --> 00:30:07,520
uh the the person who has done the most

778
00:30:11,590 --> 00:30:09,440
interviews on this subject as part of

779
00:30:14,149 --> 00:30:11,600
this process beyond anything anybody

780
00:30:15,590 --> 00:30:14,159
else has done he's the front spokesman

781
00:30:17,590 --> 00:30:15,600
for this process

782
00:30:20,070 --> 00:30:17,600
essentially he may not be appointed but

783
00:30:21,830 --> 00:30:20,080
he is the front spokesperson is louis

784
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:21,840
elizondo

785
00:30:25,669 --> 00:30:23,679
i don't know if i could catch up with

786
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:25,679
his podcast if i started watching him

787
00:30:30,470 --> 00:30:28,000
right now i he's done i don't know 10 20

788
00:30:31,909 --> 00:30:30,480
30 40 70

789
00:30:33,990 --> 00:30:31,919
and if you

790
00:30:36,549 --> 00:30:34,000
and and more than anybody else if you

791
00:30:38,310 --> 00:30:36,559
listen or watch lou

792
00:30:41,510 --> 00:30:38,320
taking these questions and going on

793
00:30:43,430 --> 00:30:41,520
these podcasts you're seeing a constant

794
00:30:46,149 --> 00:30:43,440
dynamic in which

795
00:30:48,389 --> 00:30:46,159
he can only go so far

796
00:30:50,789 --> 00:30:48,399
he can only say this

797
00:30:52,789 --> 00:30:50,799
sometimes he'll invoke the nda sometimes

798
00:30:55,590 --> 00:30:52,799
he'll say i really can't go there and

799
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:55,600
what he's saying and he said many times

800
00:30:59,029 --> 00:30:56,480
uh

801
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:59,039
if you only knew everything that i knew

802
00:31:03,190 --> 00:31:00,080
right

803
00:31:04,789 --> 00:31:03,200
you know and and and and uh and he he

804
00:31:07,350 --> 00:31:04,799
even shouldn't say that you know in

805
00:31:08,950 --> 00:31:07,360
other words he he is he is basically a

806
00:31:09,750 --> 00:31:08,960
guy that wants the truth and he wants it

807
00:31:11,669 --> 00:31:09,760
now

808
00:31:14,230 --> 00:31:11,679
he is he's definitely a patriot he's a

809
00:31:16,149 --> 00:31:14,240
hero and uh he's going to get treated

810
00:31:17,029 --> 00:31:16,159
that way historically

811
00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:17,039
but

812
00:31:21,909 --> 00:31:19,200
so he wants he would like to just sit

813
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:21,919
down and say here's the scope

814
00:31:26,149 --> 00:31:23,760
and he would be the

815
00:31:28,389 --> 00:31:26,159
the disclosure

816
00:31:30,789 --> 00:31:28,399
former dia guy well

817
00:31:32,789 --> 00:31:30,799
that's not the way the world works

818
00:31:34,789 --> 00:31:32,799
disclosure cannot come from louis

819
00:31:37,430 --> 00:31:34,799
elizondo or melon

820
00:31:39,350 --> 00:31:37,440
or or the secretary of defense or

821
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,360
anybody else it can only come from a

822
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:41,360
head of state as i define it and his

823
00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:43,279
history will define it disclosure

824
00:31:48,149 --> 00:31:46,080
capital d the formal confirmation lou

825
00:31:50,070 --> 00:31:48,159
elizondo cannot formally confirm the

826
00:31:52,389 --> 00:31:50,080
extraterrestrial presence nor can any

827
00:31:54,470 --> 00:31:52,399
one of the witnesses nor can rubia or

828
00:31:56,149 --> 00:31:54,480
gillibrand the only person that can do

829
00:31:57,029 --> 00:31:56,159
that is biden

830
00:31:58,070 --> 00:31:57,039
or

831
00:32:00,950 --> 00:31:58,080
johnson

832
00:32:04,070 --> 00:32:00,960
or trudeau or macron or putin or xi

833
00:32:05,750 --> 00:32:04,080
jinping only they can do it and one of

834
00:32:07,830 --> 00:32:05,760
them will go first unless they got

835
00:32:09,830 --> 00:32:07,840
together and coordinated a joint

836
00:32:11,430 --> 00:32:09,840
announcement and how they can't even get

837
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:11,440
together to decide whether they want to

838
00:32:14,389 --> 00:32:13,360
have a nuclear war or not so it's it's

839
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:14,399
going to be one

840
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:17,519
person first okay so

841
00:32:20,630 --> 00:32:18,640
so

842
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:20,640
they're they're having to move this

843
00:32:25,190 --> 00:32:21,760
forward

844
00:32:27,750 --> 00:32:25,200
and do it in a way that will succeed in

845
00:32:29,190 --> 00:32:27,760
getting the job done

846
00:32:30,630 --> 00:32:29,200
and so

847
00:32:39,669 --> 00:32:30,640
all of the

848
00:32:42,070 --> 00:32:39,679
of the in some cases outright mendacity

849
00:32:44,789 --> 00:32:42,080
it's irritating to those in the know

850
00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:44,799
it's frustrating to those in the know

851
00:32:49,269 --> 00:32:47,360
uh it's generally frustrating to just

852
00:32:51,190 --> 00:32:49,279
everybody else because why don't they

853
00:32:55,190 --> 00:32:51,200
just tell us kind of thing

854
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:55,200
but it absolutely is necessary to get to

855
00:32:58,470 --> 00:32:56,480
disclosure

856
00:33:00,710 --> 00:32:58,480
all right and so

857
00:33:04,070 --> 00:33:00,720
and what is the get to process it's

858
00:33:06,789 --> 00:33:04,080
really not that complicated in its

859
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:06,799
in its fundamental

860
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:08,320
the fundamental process is not that

861
00:33:12,710 --> 00:33:10,880
complicated what we have always needed

862
00:33:14,710 --> 00:33:12,720
and we've been trying to get for decades

863
00:33:18,870 --> 00:33:14,720
unsuccessfully

864
00:33:21,830 --> 00:33:18,880
is for the best military witnesses

865
00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:21,840
because this is a basically a in its

866
00:33:26,310 --> 00:33:25,440
ground uh state a uh a national security

867
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:26,320
issue

868
00:33:30,710 --> 00:33:28,399
nobody would deny that right

869
00:33:32,870 --> 00:33:30,720
uh for the best military witnesses to

870
00:33:34,630 --> 00:33:32,880
testify in front of the

871
00:33:37,509 --> 00:33:34,640
appropriate committees of congress who

872
00:33:39,590 --> 00:33:37,519
have oversight responsibility over our

873
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:39,600
national security and actions of our

874
00:33:42,230 --> 00:33:40,720
agencies

875
00:33:44,710 --> 00:33:42,240
a certain amount of oversight ability

876
00:33:46,389 --> 00:33:44,720
okay which they have not been exercising

877
00:33:48,470 --> 00:33:46,399
to the degree they should have

878
00:33:50,149 --> 00:33:48,480
to testify before these committees at

879
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:50,159
length under oath

880
00:33:52,789 --> 00:33:51,360
about

881
00:33:54,950 --> 00:33:52,799
a whole lot

882
00:33:59,590 --> 00:33:54,960
of events and evidence some of which we

883
00:34:01,110 --> 00:33:59,600
have seen since 1990 uh 2017 uh and it's

884
00:34:03,430 --> 00:34:01,120
been continued to sort of come out but

885
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:03,440
we we're seeing that develop believe me

886
00:34:08,470 --> 00:34:05,120
it's a fraction of everything that's out

887
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:08,480
there testify for days and days and days

888
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:10,240
in open

889
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:11,919
public

890
00:34:17,270 --> 00:34:13,440
video

891
00:34:19,909 --> 00:34:17,280
the whole world

892
00:34:21,589 --> 00:34:19,919
can watch it happen and see this

893
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:21,599
evidence unfolded

894
00:34:26,230 --> 00:34:23,440
accompanied by

895
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:26,240
testimony classified testimony in closed

896
00:34:30,790 --> 00:34:28,720
session with these same committees about

897
00:34:33,190 --> 00:34:30,800
information they cannot reveal publicly

898
00:34:36,550 --> 00:34:33,200
but the committees can hear

899
00:34:38,550 --> 00:34:36,560
and that to happen in an orderly fashion

900
00:34:40,790 --> 00:34:38,560
under oath

901
00:34:41,829 --> 00:34:40,800
and at some point and it won't take very

902
00:34:44,950 --> 00:34:41,839
long

903
00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:44,960
what the world will see

904
00:34:50,389 --> 00:34:46,800
will be sufficient

905
00:34:52,869 --> 00:34:50,399
to convince the world uh yeah uh

906
00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:52,879
whatever doubts i had about this being i

907
00:34:57,589 --> 00:34:55,839
don't know chinese technology or some

908
00:34:59,750 --> 00:34:57,599
hidden species that's living in the

909
00:35:01,589 --> 00:34:59,760
center of the earth no no no this is

910
00:35:03,829 --> 00:35:01,599
off-world technology multiple

911
00:35:07,030 --> 00:35:03,839
civilizations been here since at least

912
00:35:08,550 --> 00:35:07,040
the 40s we have craft we have a lot of

913
00:35:10,710 --> 00:35:08,560
information about that it's

914
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:10,720
extraterrestrial we're not alone in the

915
00:35:14,710 --> 00:35:12,240
universe okay

916
00:35:16,630 --> 00:35:14,720
and the moment the president

917
00:35:18,390 --> 00:35:16,640
right and i assure you biden knows

918
00:35:19,750 --> 00:35:18,400
there's an e.t presence

919
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:19,760
trust me on this

920
00:35:24,390 --> 00:35:22,400
the president sees that

921
00:35:25,589 --> 00:35:24,400
and the congress sees that and the dod

922
00:35:27,349 --> 00:35:25,599
sees that

923
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:27,359
then there will be a little back and

924
00:35:30,790 --> 00:35:29,200
forth some conversations some email

925
00:35:32,150 --> 00:35:30,800
exchanges whatever the hell and the

926
00:35:34,150 --> 00:35:32,160
president is going to come forward and

927
00:35:36,069 --> 00:35:34,160
confirm the e.t presence

928
00:35:37,670 --> 00:35:36,079
and that process won't take very long

929
00:35:39,670 --> 00:35:37,680
once it gets started

930
00:35:42,069 --> 00:35:39,680
the run-up to it is taking a long time

931
00:35:45,190 --> 00:35:42,079
but once it gets started and by the way

932
00:35:47,990 --> 00:35:45,200
it technically got started on the 17th

933
00:35:50,710 --> 00:35:48,000
of may when the first hearing short

934
00:35:52,390 --> 00:35:50,720
modest was held in front of the uh a

935
00:35:54,870 --> 00:35:52,400
subcommittee of the house

936
00:35:57,670 --> 00:35:54,880
on may 17th lasted about an hour and 10

937
00:36:00,950 --> 00:35:57,680
minutes okay the first such hearing on

938
00:36:02,150 --> 00:36:00,960
uap since 1968 54 years that was the

939
00:36:04,630 --> 00:36:02,160
beginning

940
00:36:07,030 --> 00:36:04,640
and the only reason that we didn't then

941
00:36:08,950 --> 00:36:07,040
start moving forward real quick is we

942
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:08,960
have a few other issues here that we're

943
00:36:12,790 --> 00:36:09,920
dealing with

944
00:36:13,670 --> 00:36:12,800
okay uh which are sort of getting in the

945
00:36:14,550 --> 00:36:13,680
way

946
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:14,560
uh

947
00:36:20,870 --> 00:36:17,440
you know the run-up to world war three

948
00:36:22,550 --> 00:36:20,880
um insurrections uh in massive

949
00:36:24,470 --> 00:36:22,560
investigations going on of a former

950
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:24,480
president on and on and on this this is

951
00:36:28,230 --> 00:36:27,119
just unfortunate timing but it's not

952
00:36:30,710 --> 00:36:28,240
enough

953
00:36:32,870 --> 00:36:30,720
to to ultimately

954
00:36:34,550 --> 00:36:32,880
uh indefinitely postpone this this thing

955
00:36:35,589 --> 00:36:34,560
is going to get going again

956
00:36:37,430 --> 00:36:35,599
so

957
00:36:38,230 --> 00:36:37,440
that is what's going on

958
00:36:41,030 --> 00:36:38,240
and

959
00:36:43,910 --> 00:36:41,040
i'll finish with this if

960
00:36:46,470 --> 00:36:43,920
that is what they need to do

961
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:48,550
and and you know that

962
00:36:54,390 --> 00:36:50,400
why are you

963
00:36:56,390 --> 00:36:54,400
going public and telling everybody

964
00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:56,400
that's what's going on why are you

965
00:37:01,510 --> 00:36:59,200
letting us know that they're having to

966
00:37:03,030 --> 00:37:01,520
do a lot of little white lies and and

967
00:37:06,790 --> 00:37:03,040
play some games here in order to get

968
00:37:09,829 --> 00:37:06,800
this done aren't you ruining it for them

969
00:37:11,430 --> 00:37:09,839
oh no that's not what's going on

970
00:37:13,109 --> 00:37:11,440
look

971
00:37:16,470 --> 00:37:13,119
i'm not that big a deal

972
00:37:18,470 --> 00:37:16,480
uh my saying these things uh right now

973
00:37:21,030 --> 00:37:18,480
wherever the venue is is not going to

974
00:37:22,630 --> 00:37:21,040
throw the issue up in here no it's not

975
00:37:24,390 --> 00:37:22,640
uh

976
00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:24,400
and and so i know they're not worried

977
00:37:27,349 --> 00:37:26,160
about that neither am i

978
00:37:28,310 --> 00:37:27,359
however

979
00:37:30,950 --> 00:37:28,320
right

980
00:37:34,550 --> 00:37:30,960
there is a very good reason why

981
00:37:36,790 --> 00:37:34,560
a reasonable number of people

982
00:37:38,630 --> 00:37:36,800
thousands hundreds of thousands whatever

983
00:37:40,310 --> 00:37:38,640
understand this

984
00:37:41,670 --> 00:37:40,320
understand that yeah that's what they

985
00:37:42,630 --> 00:37:41,680
have to do

986
00:37:44,790 --> 00:37:42,640
so

987
00:37:49,670 --> 00:37:44,800
i unders i get it right

988
00:37:53,270 --> 00:37:49,680
uh and the reason for that is that

989
00:37:54,710 --> 00:37:53,280
it's not in the best interest

990
00:37:57,910 --> 00:37:54,720
of

991
00:38:01,030 --> 00:37:57,920
that

992
00:38:02,950 --> 00:38:01,040
everybody be taken in again by the

993
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:02,960
solution

994
00:38:08,950 --> 00:38:06,480
uh uh as we have been by the problem in

995
00:38:11,270 --> 00:38:08,960
other words

996
00:38:15,430 --> 00:38:13,510
we the more people that know that this

997
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:15,440
is what they're trying to do righteously

998
00:38:20,790 --> 00:38:16,560
trying to do

999
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:20,800
done and having to go through these

1000
00:38:24,390 --> 00:38:22,480
hoops and jump through these over these

1001
00:38:26,630 --> 00:38:24,400
uh

1002
00:38:29,270 --> 00:38:26,640
it's important the more people that kind

1003
00:38:31,670 --> 00:38:29,280
of know that

1004
00:38:36,150 --> 00:38:31,680
the less likely

1005
00:38:38,790 --> 00:38:36,160
that this kind of necessary mendacity

1006
00:38:40,470 --> 00:38:38,800
doesn't continue

1007
00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:40,480
all right in other words here is what's

1008
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:42,960
supposed to happen

1009
00:38:47,510 --> 00:38:45,680
the dod and the navy and congress and

1010
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,520
former members and academics and

1011
00:38:51,910 --> 00:38:49,440
everything else need to play along with

1012
00:38:54,069 --> 00:38:51,920
this somewhat contrived scenario in

1013
00:38:56,230 --> 00:38:54,079
order to get the right thing done but

1014
00:38:58,150 --> 00:38:56,240
once the right thing is done

1015
00:39:00,790 --> 00:38:58,160
once the president has confirmed the

1016
00:39:03,589 --> 00:39:00,800
extraterrestrial presence the mendacity

1017
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:03,599
the game playing the uh the charades the

1018
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:06,480
kabuki theater all of that needs to end

1019
00:39:12,150 --> 00:39:09,359
and after that it's transparency

1020
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:15,270
you want to know this we cannot tell you

1021
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:17,520
it is classified not we're going to

1022
00:39:21,589 --> 00:39:20,079
dance around with you and your foias for

1023
00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:21,599
eight or nine years and then finally

1024
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,599
announce we can't find the files you

1025
00:39:26,710 --> 00:39:25,200
know either tell you the truth or we

1026
00:39:29,430 --> 00:39:26,720
tell you we can't tell you the truth and

1027
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:29,440
we tell you why right and then i

1028
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:31,040
and then again there is a unveiling

1029
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:33,359
process where more and more previously

1030
00:39:37,589 --> 00:39:35,440
classified information is coming out

1031
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:37,599
there's open cooperation at the maximum

1032
00:39:42,069 --> 00:39:40,240
level maximum transparency that it needs

1033
00:39:44,230 --> 00:39:42,079
to happen

1034
00:39:45,750 --> 00:39:44,240
the moment disclosure takes place and

1035
00:39:47,910 --> 00:39:45,760
there's going to be a temptation on the

1036
00:39:49,910 --> 00:39:47,920
part of a lot of people that are going

1037
00:39:51,430 --> 00:39:49,920
to be thinking like this you know

1038
00:39:53,430 --> 00:39:51,440
we got away with the truth embargo

1039
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:53,440
itself for 75 years

1040
00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:55,520
that was pretty cool and then we were

1041
00:39:59,589 --> 00:39:57,920
able to manipulate the whole uh ending

1042
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:59,599
of the truth embargo process and play

1043
00:40:03,910 --> 00:40:01,280
some games and got that job done that

1044
00:40:05,750 --> 00:40:03,920
was pretty special and so okay now the

1045
00:40:08,550 --> 00:40:05,760
world knows we're not alone but let's

1046
00:40:10,470 --> 00:40:08,560
face it we can play this thing some more

1047
00:40:12,230 --> 00:40:10,480
there's all kinds of things we can do

1048
00:40:14,150 --> 00:40:12,240
right we can you know

1049
00:40:16,230 --> 00:40:14,160
we can take that angle in this game and

1050
00:40:18,550 --> 00:40:16,240
that charade or whatever and we can we

1051
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:18,560
can we can make it easier for us in the

1052
00:40:21,750 --> 00:40:20,800
post-disclosure world

1053
00:40:27,109 --> 00:40:21,760
no

1054
00:40:29,190 --> 00:40:27,119
educate people to the fact that

1055
00:40:32,069 --> 00:40:29,200
uh what you're seeing now is not

1056
00:40:33,670 --> 00:40:32,079
straight up but it's necessary it's not

1057
00:40:36,150 --> 00:40:33,680
the truth the whole truth and nothing

1058
00:40:39,990 --> 00:40:36,160
but the truth but it is necessary to get

1059
00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:40,000
to an absolute absolute

1060
00:40:42,630 --> 00:40:41,040
uh

1061
00:40:43,510 --> 00:40:42,640
event we must have

1062
00:40:45,109 --> 00:40:43,520
right

1063
00:40:47,589 --> 00:40:45,119
for the interest of planet

1064
00:40:50,550 --> 00:40:47,599
and and and understand that so be

1065
00:40:53,030 --> 00:40:50,560
understanding however

1066
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:53,040
any efforts to continue this game this

1067
00:40:56,230 --> 00:40:54,720
way after disclosure you must be

1068
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:56,240
relentless

1069
00:40:59,910 --> 00:40:58,640
in saying look i understood it i get it

1070
00:41:01,510 --> 00:40:59,920
no more

1071
00:41:04,390 --> 00:41:01,520
and then lastly

1072
00:41:06,390 --> 00:41:04,400
there is this right

1073
00:41:07,990 --> 00:41:06,400
overall the truth embargo

1074
00:41:09,270 --> 00:41:08,000
and its entire

1075
00:41:10,870 --> 00:41:09,280
production

1076
00:41:12,230 --> 00:41:10,880
in all countries everywhere but

1077
00:41:14,150 --> 00:41:12,240
certainly in the united states and i

1078
00:41:16,309 --> 00:41:14,160
think the uk to a great extent probably

1079
00:41:17,510 --> 00:41:16,319
more than any other country

1080
00:41:19,349 --> 00:41:17,520
uh

1081
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,359
in order for it to be maintained for 70

1082
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:20,960
years it had to make make a fool out of

1083
00:41:25,349 --> 00:41:23,839
everybody yeah we've all been the tools

1084
00:41:28,390 --> 00:41:25,359
the researchers the journalists the

1085
00:41:30,069 --> 00:41:28,400
academics right people actually in in

1086
00:41:32,829 --> 00:41:30,079
military services and have to walk out

1087
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:32,839
in front of cameras and utterly lie

1088
00:41:37,270 --> 00:41:35,680
uh himself to death there because they

1089
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:37,280
have no choice

1090
00:41:41,829 --> 00:41:39,520
right it is made fools of us they sent

1091
00:41:43,829 --> 00:41:41,839
us off down blind alleys running around

1092
00:41:46,230 --> 00:41:43,839
and chasing our tails stumbling around

1093
00:41:48,309 --> 00:41:46,240
in the in a in the dark in the in the

1094
00:41:50,069 --> 00:41:48,319
living room smashing into furniture for

1095
00:41:51,589 --> 00:41:50,079
75 years

1096
00:41:54,390 --> 00:41:51,599
and to

1097
00:41:55,430 --> 00:41:54,400
i want to minimize

1098
00:42:06,950 --> 00:41:55,440
the

1099
00:42:08,550 --> 00:42:06,960
final solution which we must have

1100
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:08,560
doesn't

1101
00:42:12,230 --> 00:42:11,280
also make a fool of too many people in

1102
00:42:13,670 --> 00:42:12,240
other words

1103
00:42:15,030 --> 00:42:13,680
it's going to make a fool of a lot of

1104
00:42:17,109 --> 00:42:15,040
people already is there a lot of people

1105
00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:17,119
going on twitter and raiding cravings

1106
00:42:20,390 --> 00:42:18,960
claiming this and claiming that and then

1107
00:42:21,430 --> 00:42:20,400
not too long from now they're going to

1108
00:42:23,589 --> 00:42:21,440
go oh

1109
00:42:25,670 --> 00:42:23,599
uh oh gee

1110
00:42:29,190 --> 00:42:25,680
doing that i wouldn't have tweeted this

1111
00:42:30,710 --> 00:42:29,200
or man i'm sorry i whatever and they're

1112
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:30,720
going to feel like a fool

1113
00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:32,560
right so i'm trying to mitigate that a

1114
00:42:36,790 --> 00:42:35,040
little bit uh and i'll talk to the

1115
00:42:37,670 --> 00:42:36,800
biggest audience possible

1116
00:42:42,390 --> 00:42:37,680
this

1117
00:42:44,390 --> 00:42:42,400
by a lot of people i don't care how many

1118
00:42:46,710 --> 00:42:44,400
is not going to stop it

1119
00:42:47,990 --> 00:42:46,720
in fact it may help it because you get a

1120
00:42:50,309 --> 00:42:48,000
less you get a less you get less

1121
00:42:51,910 --> 00:42:50,319
blowback less trolling perhaps as people

1122
00:42:53,910 --> 00:42:51,920
become more understanding and you go

1123
00:42:55,750 --> 00:42:53,920
okay i get it keep moving forward as

1124
00:42:57,430 --> 00:42:55,760
opposed to going online and blowing

1125
00:42:59,910 --> 00:42:57,440
their brains out and thanks for having

1126
00:43:01,990 --> 00:42:59,920
exploding heads over what this person

1127
00:43:03,990 --> 00:43:02,000
said or why that didn't happen

1128
00:43:06,470 --> 00:43:04,000
it actually may help that to some degree

1129
00:43:08,950 --> 00:43:06,480
now this may be hubris on my part there

1130
00:43:11,030 --> 00:43:08,960
may be people over the dod saying that's

1131
00:43:13,430 --> 00:43:11,040
son of a

1132
00:43:15,190 --> 00:43:13,440
would just [\h__\h] up and just

1133
00:43:16,309 --> 00:43:15,200
go somewhere take a vacation we'll get

1134
00:43:18,069 --> 00:43:16,319
this done

1135
00:43:23,190 --> 00:43:18,079
all right we know what he wants it's

1136
00:43:24,630 --> 00:43:23,200
going to happen so just you know s-t-uf

1137
00:43:26,069 --> 00:43:24,640
right but i'm hoping there's some over

1138
00:43:28,150 --> 00:43:26,079
there they're going hey you know i get

1139
00:43:30,230 --> 00:43:28,160
it uh that's cool that's cool man we're

1140
00:43:32,390 --> 00:43:30,240
all gonna cross the finish line together

1141
00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:32,400
we'll all get together have drinks share

1142
00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:35,200
a meal talk about the great old days and

1143
00:43:38,950 --> 00:43:36,960
so forth and that's that's what i hope

1144
00:43:41,190 --> 00:43:38,960
will happen i like the sound of that

1145
00:43:42,950 --> 00:43:41,200
definitely i suppose my next question is

1146
00:43:44,550 --> 00:43:42,960
kind of a two-parter we obviously had

1147
00:43:47,030 --> 00:43:44,560
that first hearing with moultrie and

1148
00:43:48,390 --> 00:43:47,040
brey as witnesses and everyone since

1149
00:43:50,550 --> 00:43:48,400
then is just screaming when are we going

1150
00:43:52,150 --> 00:43:50,560
to see the people that that really are

1151
00:43:54,390 --> 00:43:52,160
in the know and then we hear people like

1152
00:43:56,470 --> 00:43:54,400
louie elizondo say you may see some

1153
00:43:57,750 --> 00:43:56,480
familiar faces at the next hearings so

1154
00:43:59,270 --> 00:43:57,760
yeah that's the first part of my

1155
00:44:01,030 --> 00:43:59,280
question who do you think we might see

1156
00:44:03,910 --> 00:44:01,040
but the second part is what your

1157
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:03,920
thoughts are on amnesty for people that

1158
00:44:08,230 --> 00:44:05,839
may have been uh you know part of the

1159
00:44:10,069 --> 00:44:08,240
cover-up or or even some criminal

1160
00:44:11,910 --> 00:44:10,079
offences to keep the cover-up in the

1161
00:44:14,069 --> 00:44:11,920
past going forward should they have

1162
00:44:16,710 --> 00:44:14,079
amnesty first question is easy the

1163
00:44:20,829 --> 00:44:16,720
second one's more complex okay

1164
00:44:25,589 --> 00:44:23,190
um right now

1165
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:25,599
the january 6 hearings are underway and

1166
00:44:31,109 --> 00:44:28,079
they are a big deal trust me very big

1167
00:44:33,190 --> 00:44:31,119
deal yeah i mean they're pure politics

1168
00:44:34,630 --> 00:44:33,200
disclosure is political but what's

1169
00:44:37,270 --> 00:44:34,640
happening right now is

1170
00:44:38,390 --> 00:44:37,280
political cubed yeah

1171
00:44:39,910 --> 00:44:38,400
uh they've had

1172
00:44:43,030 --> 00:44:39,920
five i think

1173
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:43,040
uh they're going to take a recess

1174
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:43,760
of

1175
00:44:47,349 --> 00:44:45,119
a week

1176
00:44:49,109 --> 00:44:47,359
maybe two

1177
00:44:50,870 --> 00:44:49,119
so

1178
00:44:52,950 --> 00:44:50,880
the next one is

1179
00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:52,960
going to be probably about a week into

1180
00:44:55,270 --> 00:44:54,000
july

1181
00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:55,280
around there

1182
00:44:59,030 --> 00:44:56,319
it's

1183
00:45:00,790 --> 00:44:59,040
highly unlikely that

1184
00:45:03,109 --> 00:45:00,800
another committee

1185
00:45:04,550 --> 00:45:03,119
it'll either be a one more subcommittee

1186
00:45:06,630 --> 00:45:04,560
house or senate

1187
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:06,640
or it'll be right to one of the intel

1188
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:08,400
committees house or senate intelligence

1189
00:45:11,670 --> 00:45:10,079
committee which are the big ones these

1190
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:11,680
are really the critical

1191
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:12,480
uh

1192
00:45:15,990 --> 00:45:14,079
it's unlikely one of those can happen

1193
00:45:17,270 --> 00:45:16,000
between now and then it's not that they

1194
00:45:18,390 --> 00:45:17,280
couldn't do it i mean you could have you

1195
00:45:20,870 --> 00:45:18,400
could have a

1196
00:45:23,349 --> 00:45:20,880
you you could have the um uh the january

1197
00:45:25,430 --> 00:45:23,359
6th hearing going on which is not a

1198
00:45:27,910 --> 00:45:25,440
standard hearing it is not

1199
00:45:29,589 --> 00:45:27,920
uh it is a special committee set up and

1200
00:45:31,990 --> 00:45:29,599
they're orchestrating that entire thing

1201
00:45:34,870 --> 00:45:32,000
but you could have that happening and

1202
00:45:36,710 --> 00:45:34,880
then over in another hearing room you

1203
00:45:39,030 --> 00:45:36,720
could literally have the witnesses

1204
00:45:41,030 --> 00:45:39,040
testifying in front of the senate intel

1205
00:45:44,150 --> 00:45:41,040
committee at the same time

1206
00:45:46,470 --> 00:45:44,160
but that's not going to happen because

1207
00:45:49,270 --> 00:45:46,480
both of these these are incredibly

1208
00:45:51,510 --> 00:45:49,280
significant events and you do not want

1209
00:45:53,190 --> 00:45:51,520
them competing with each other

1210
00:45:54,630 --> 00:45:53,200
uh you know one of the most important

1211
00:45:56,390 --> 00:45:54,640
things about hearings like this whether

1212
00:45:58,470 --> 00:45:56,400
it's a watergate hearing the rand contra

1213
00:46:00,630 --> 00:45:58,480
hearings january 6 hearings and

1214
00:46:02,710 --> 00:46:00,640
certainly the disclosure

1215
00:46:04,950 --> 00:46:02,720
is you want a huge audience

1216
00:46:06,630 --> 00:46:04,960
uh transparency and the audience is

1217
00:46:08,150 --> 00:46:06,640
pretty important this isn't just

1218
00:46:09,430 --> 00:46:08,160
standard business where you've got

1219
00:46:11,030 --> 00:46:09,440
nobody in the room and they're just

1220
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:11,040
doing some you know hearing that they

1221
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:13,520
need to do and some housekeeping matter

1222
00:46:17,190 --> 00:46:15,520
somewhere in the house in a room that

1223
00:46:19,589 --> 00:46:17,200
most journalists never even knew existed

1224
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:19,599
no no no this is big the first day of

1225
00:46:23,589 --> 00:46:21,440
the january 6th earrings they had 20

1226
00:46:26,630 --> 00:46:23,599
million people ultimately view

1227
00:46:28,390 --> 00:46:26,640
right uh and it was on c-span

1228
00:46:30,230 --> 00:46:28,400
c-span two

1229
00:46:33,190 --> 00:46:30,240
uh since then they've gotten more

1230
00:46:36,069 --> 00:46:33,200
coverage uh eventually you're gonna see

1231
00:46:37,910 --> 00:46:36,079
probably a major one of these in which

1232
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:37,920
the audience may get up in the 40-50

1233
00:46:42,309 --> 00:46:40,000
million range uh and it's going to be

1234
00:46:45,510 --> 00:46:42,319
covered everywhere

1235
00:46:48,230 --> 00:46:45,520
the the disclosure hearings

1236
00:46:49,750 --> 00:46:48,240
will almost certainly surpass that

1237
00:46:52,390 --> 00:46:49,760
meaning

1238
00:46:54,829 --> 00:46:52,400
obviously the first one didn't

1239
00:46:59,030 --> 00:46:54,839
but it was broadcast on

1240
00:47:01,030 --> 00:46:59,040
on c-span 2 and it was broadcast uh on

1241
00:47:02,630 --> 00:47:01,040
youtube and some other things yeah

1242
00:47:04,870 --> 00:47:02,640
ultimately

1243
00:47:07,829 --> 00:47:04,880
the people watching

1244
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:07,839
the coming hearings will get in the 40

1245
00:47:11,349 --> 00:47:10,400
50 60 70 80 million

1246
00:47:13,910 --> 00:47:11,359
range

1247
00:47:15,510 --> 00:47:13,920
and then much higher depending upon

1248
00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:15,520
how much uh

1249
00:47:19,670 --> 00:47:17,440
coverage is coming in from how much

1250
00:47:21,430 --> 00:47:19,680
coverage from from outside the u.s

1251
00:47:23,270 --> 00:47:21,440
this issue obviously is an absolutely

1252
00:47:24,549 --> 00:47:23,280
international issue there's no reason

1253
00:47:26,870 --> 00:47:24,559
every country

1254
00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:26,880
out there it would not want their people

1255
00:47:30,870 --> 00:47:29,200
to be watching these hearings live with

1256
00:47:32,150 --> 00:47:30,880
whatever captions or translations so

1257
00:47:34,069 --> 00:47:32,160
it's going to be a huge number and

1258
00:47:36,230 --> 00:47:34,079
that's important they want that and so

1259
00:47:38,069 --> 00:47:36,240
you you these these you want the

1260
00:47:40,790 --> 00:47:38,079
hearings on this cannot be competing

1261
00:47:42,309 --> 00:47:40,800
with something else and so

1262
00:47:43,910 --> 00:47:42,319
we're not going to get anything until

1263
00:47:47,109 --> 00:47:43,920
after the

1264
00:47:49,030 --> 00:47:47,119
the january 6 hearing settled down

1265
00:47:51,190 --> 00:47:49,040
now when

1266
00:47:54,470 --> 00:47:51,200
i don't think it's much longer

1267
00:47:56,470 --> 00:47:54,480
i think uh there'll be a few more

1268
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:56,480
uh once they start again there may be a

1269
00:48:00,870 --> 00:47:59,280
couple in quick succession and i think

1270
00:48:02,230 --> 00:48:00,880
we're going to then

1271
00:48:04,309 --> 00:48:02,240
see indictments coming in from the

1272
00:48:06,630 --> 00:48:04,319
department of justice and once those

1273
00:48:09,589 --> 00:48:06,640
indictments start okay that's going to

1274
00:48:12,790 --> 00:48:09,599
be a big story all right no question

1275
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:12,800
but it's also going to be an ugly story

1276
00:48:17,670 --> 00:48:14,960
uh and it's going to

1277
00:48:19,190 --> 00:48:17,680
be very intense and very ugly

1278
00:48:21,030 --> 00:48:19,200
at that point

1279
00:48:22,390 --> 00:48:21,040
to resume the

1280
00:48:25,190 --> 00:48:22,400
disclosure what i call like the

1281
00:48:27,510 --> 00:48:25,200
disclosure hearings uap hearings

1282
00:48:28,790 --> 00:48:27,520
will be possible because they'll be able

1283
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:28,800
to get the audience they won't be

1284
00:48:33,430 --> 00:48:30,640
competing

1285
00:48:36,950 --> 00:48:33,440
but also that is these are going to be

1286
00:48:38,870 --> 00:48:36,960
very positive in a way very exciting

1287
00:48:40,630 --> 00:48:38,880
non-political hearings i mean these are

1288
00:48:43,109 --> 00:48:40,640
going to be hearings of incredible

1289
00:48:45,109 --> 00:48:43,119
global significance which is exactly

1290
00:48:47,750 --> 00:48:45,119
what the world is going to need

1291
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:47,760
as the the ugliness of the last few

1292
00:48:51,430 --> 00:48:49,440
years sort of finally starts getting

1293
00:48:52,870 --> 00:48:51,440
resolved all right

1294
00:48:53,829 --> 00:48:52,880
and then also

1295
00:48:56,870 --> 00:48:53,839
uh

1296
00:48:59,349 --> 00:48:56,880
it would be nice if we were able to get

1297
00:49:01,190 --> 00:48:59,359
the hearings done and get to disclosure

1298
00:49:01,670 --> 00:49:01,200
this

1299
00:49:04,230 --> 00:49:01,680
as summer

1300
00:49:06,870 --> 00:49:04,240
as possible so that

1301
00:49:08,390 --> 00:49:06,880
uh all of the people running for our

1302
00:49:10,390 --> 00:49:08,400
office here in the us which is

1303
00:49:11,670 --> 00:49:10,400
approximately 400 and

1304
00:49:14,829 --> 00:49:11,680
at the national level which is

1305
00:49:19,349 --> 00:49:17,910
68 uh candidates

1306
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:19,359
every one of them could be running in

1307
00:49:23,589 --> 00:49:21,359
the post-disclosure world meaning

1308
00:49:25,990 --> 00:49:23,599
they're out campaigning and

1309
00:49:28,390 --> 00:49:26,000
you know the press asking well uh

1310
00:49:30,230 --> 00:49:28,400
candidate so and so uh

1311
00:49:32,230 --> 00:49:30,240
what do you what is your take and what

1312
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:32,240
is your position regarding the fact that

1313
00:49:35,510 --> 00:49:33,760
it's just been confirmed to us by

1314
00:49:37,109 --> 00:49:35,520
president biden that that this

1315
00:49:39,030 --> 00:49:37,119
phenomenon is not is not human it's

1316
00:49:40,870 --> 00:49:39,040
extraterrestrial we're not alone anyway

1317
00:49:42,829 --> 00:49:40,880
what do you how do you think

1318
00:49:45,750 --> 00:49:42,839
we should deal with that

1319
00:49:46,870 --> 00:49:45,760
uh what are your views on it and so

1320
00:49:48,790 --> 00:49:46,880
forth and so these people could

1321
00:49:50,950 --> 00:49:48,800
literally and and they'll be able to do

1322
00:49:53,030 --> 00:49:50,960
that uh more importantly that's a

1323
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:53,040
non-political question i mean it's not

1324
00:49:57,349 --> 00:49:55,119
like uh tell me candidate what is your

1325
00:49:59,109 --> 00:49:57,359
view on the extraterrestrial question so

1326
00:50:00,710 --> 00:49:59,119
that i can then take that and use it to

1327
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:00,720
beat the crap out of you because i want

1328
00:50:03,589 --> 00:50:02,800
the other other woman or the guy to win

1329
00:50:05,829 --> 00:50:03,599
no

1330
00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:05,839
these are these are universal powerful

1331
00:50:10,870 --> 00:50:08,960
non-political matters and it'll give all

1332
00:50:12,150 --> 00:50:10,880
of these candidates the opportunity to

1333
00:50:15,190 --> 00:50:12,160
put the

1334
00:50:16,390 --> 00:50:15,200
that that persona aside that they have

1335
00:50:18,230 --> 00:50:16,400
to put up

1336
00:50:20,309 --> 00:50:18,240
in order to somehow

1337
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:20,319
not only raise the millions of dollars

1338
00:50:25,270 --> 00:50:22,480
they have to raise to even win the damn

1339
00:50:26,950 --> 00:50:25,280
election but get the votes necessary and

1340
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:26,960
put up put out all those nonsense get

1341
00:50:31,109 --> 00:50:28,800
the votes to win they could just be

1342
00:50:33,990 --> 00:50:31,119
honest and say what they think

1343
00:50:35,750 --> 00:50:34,000
we want that that is really needed badly

1344
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:35,760
and we can have that if we're willing to

1345
00:50:39,750 --> 00:50:37,520
get the job done

1346
00:50:41,670 --> 00:50:39,760
if they don't get those hearings later

1347
00:50:45,109 --> 00:50:41,680
this summer

1348
00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:45,119
and they don't happen until next year

1349
00:50:49,109 --> 00:50:47,040
think of it this way

1350
00:50:50,870 --> 00:50:49,119
the public will learn next year that

1351
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:50,880
there's an extraterrestrial presence it

1352
00:50:54,390 --> 00:50:52,640
will also learn that they could have

1353
00:50:57,589 --> 00:50:54,400
told us last year

1354
00:50:59,349 --> 00:50:57,599
and so uh why did you delay it

1355
00:51:00,790 --> 00:50:59,359
that was a very political thing

1356
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:00,800
president biden

1357
00:51:04,790 --> 00:51:03,280
you know uh senator uh

1358
00:51:06,710 --> 00:51:04,800
uh warner

1359
00:51:08,309 --> 00:51:06,720
right congressman diego that's a very

1360
00:51:09,910 --> 00:51:08,319
political thing you did you didn't give

1361
00:51:10,950 --> 00:51:09,920
us a chance to have that

1362
00:51:13,030 --> 00:51:10,960
in our

1363
00:51:14,470 --> 00:51:13,040
our uh you know our knowledge base in

1364
00:51:16,790 --> 00:51:14,480
order to do this election why did you do

1365
00:51:18,150 --> 00:51:16,800
that and it's going to really demean the

1366
00:51:19,670 --> 00:51:18,160
process they're going to be angry as

1367
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,680
hell and you can say now we got all

1368
00:51:23,270 --> 00:51:21,599
these members in congress

1369
00:51:24,950 --> 00:51:23,280
right and we don't know what the hell we

1370
00:51:27,670 --> 00:51:24,960
think about this issue

1371
00:51:29,349 --> 00:51:27,680
right and and and if we had known about

1372
00:51:30,950 --> 00:51:29,359
this and been able to talk to them about

1373
00:51:33,109 --> 00:51:30,960
this we might have decided to vote for

1374
00:51:34,230 --> 00:51:33,119
somebody else and so this is what

1375
00:51:36,069 --> 00:51:34,240
they're dealing with i mean publicly

1376
00:51:38,230 --> 00:51:36,079
said this is all nonsense no it's not

1377
00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:38,240
it's fundamental real politique all

1378
00:51:43,270 --> 00:51:41,280
right so the government has a decision

1379
00:51:44,950 --> 00:51:43,280
get this done before the election which

1380
00:51:47,910 --> 00:51:44,960
they can still do the witnesses are

1381
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:47,920
ready to testify my god there's probably

1382
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:50,079
a hundred military witnesses out there

1383
00:51:54,790 --> 00:51:52,319
right now that if get sent a plane

1384
00:51:55,589 --> 00:51:54,800
ticket would get on it the next day

1385
00:51:58,150 --> 00:51:55,599
and

1386
00:51:59,510 --> 00:51:58,160
be in washington

1387
00:52:01,829 --> 00:51:59,520
to testify

1388
00:52:03,589 --> 00:52:01,839
yeah so that that's the so that is what

1389
00:52:05,589 --> 00:52:03,599
i hope will happen

1390
00:52:08,950 --> 00:52:05,599
and

1391
00:52:11,190 --> 00:52:08,960
expect military witnesses only

1392
00:52:14,710 --> 00:52:11,200
or national security meaning it could be

1393
00:52:15,589 --> 00:52:14,720
civilian people from the dod or whatever

1394
00:52:17,670 --> 00:52:15,599
no

1395
00:52:20,549 --> 00:52:17,680
people like me

1396
00:52:22,630 --> 00:52:20,559
no uap researchers you know no members i

1397
00:52:24,470 --> 00:52:22,640
don't mean maybe uh maybe they had a

1398
00:52:27,030 --> 00:52:24,480
move on or something i doubt that it's

1399
00:52:28,710 --> 00:52:27,040
going to be national security base

1400
00:52:31,190 --> 00:52:28,720
it's going to be lou elizondos and

1401
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:31,200
dietrich's and framers and solaces and

1402
00:52:36,390 --> 00:52:34,720
so forth uh uh that's the stuff that

1403
00:52:37,910 --> 00:52:36,400
that matters they don't they're not

1404
00:52:40,390 --> 00:52:37,920
gonna be getting into the woods and

1405
00:52:42,710 --> 00:52:40,400
starting from scratch okay witness could

1406
00:52:44,710 --> 00:52:42,720
you uh could you provide uh your

1407
00:52:46,950 --> 00:52:44,720
perspective on everything that happened

1408
00:52:47,910 --> 00:52:46,960
since 1947 when yeah

1409
00:52:48,950 --> 00:52:47,920
it's gonna be what do you know about

1410
00:52:50,470 --> 00:52:48,960
this what do you know about that what

1411
00:52:51,910 --> 00:52:50,480
about this event what about that event

1412
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:51,920
and so forth did this happen did that

1413
00:52:55,829 --> 00:52:53,760
happen and then you may have witnesses

1414
00:52:58,829 --> 00:52:55,839
turning up from the pentagon

1415
00:53:02,630 --> 00:52:58,839
right uh saying uh okay

1416
00:53:05,109 --> 00:53:02,640
um uh secretary secretary uh of

1417
00:53:07,190 --> 00:53:05,119
intelligence uh uh defense for

1418
00:53:10,390 --> 00:53:07,200
intelligence uh uh we understand you

1419
00:53:12,870 --> 00:53:10,400
brought with you today 12 uh films

1420
00:53:16,069 --> 00:53:12,880
regarding additional encounters with uap

1421
00:53:18,390 --> 00:53:16,079
taken from our our defense planes uh uh

1422
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:18,400
we're going to run some of those now and

1423
00:53:21,910 --> 00:53:19,839
then we'd like you to comment it's going

1424
00:53:24,470 --> 00:53:21,920
to be things like that that's what to

1425
00:53:25,910 --> 00:53:24,480
expect wow

1426
00:53:33,430 --> 00:53:25,920
the

1427
00:53:35,829 --> 00:53:33,440
that you would like to see will not

1428
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:35,839
expand but it will expand until after

1429
00:53:40,309 --> 00:53:38,720
disclosure after disclosure the range of

1430
00:53:43,589 --> 00:53:40,319
potential witnesses that could come on

1431
00:53:45,750 --> 00:53:43,599
the hill uh will grow greatly and you

1432
00:53:47,030 --> 00:53:45,760
will see a much broader range of

1433
00:53:48,790 --> 00:53:47,040
testimony but that's in the

1434
00:53:51,589 --> 00:53:48,800
post-disclosure world that's after

1435
00:53:53,510 --> 00:53:51,599
disclosure until then think military

1436
00:53:56,470 --> 00:53:53,520
witnesses national defense witnesses

1437
00:53:58,630 --> 00:53:56,480
only that's amazing i i love how

1438
00:53:59,910 --> 00:53:58,640
confident you are and i you know there's

1439
00:54:01,430 --> 00:53:59,920
very few times that you've ever been

1440
00:54:03,030 --> 00:54:01,440
wrong in this subject steve over the

1441
00:54:04,950 --> 00:54:03,040
years so i'm really

1442
00:54:06,390 --> 00:54:04,960
happy to hear you say those things now

1443
00:54:10,710 --> 00:54:06,400
we're getting a plan

1444
00:54:16,390 --> 00:54:13,670
okay this is complicated

1445
00:54:18,069 --> 00:54:16,400
i i support of course the concept of

1446
00:54:20,309 --> 00:54:18,079
amnesty and i support the concept of

1447
00:54:21,910 --> 00:54:20,319
truth and reconciliation right but

1448
00:54:23,829 --> 00:54:21,920
there's a lot of confusion out there

1449
00:54:26,790 --> 00:54:23,839
about that

1450
00:54:32,870 --> 00:54:29,430
amnesty

1451
00:54:36,870 --> 00:54:34,230
somebody

1452
00:54:40,870 --> 00:54:39,030
accidentally

1453
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:40,880
says something

1454
00:54:44,630 --> 00:54:42,640
which act violates

1455
00:54:47,109 --> 00:54:44,640
a national security

1456
00:54:49,349 --> 00:54:47,119
directive or an nda or their clearance

1457
00:54:51,109 --> 00:54:49,359
or what have you which could happen

1458
00:54:53,670 --> 00:54:51,119
okay

1459
00:54:55,670 --> 00:54:53,680
and theoretically and not theoretically

1460
00:54:58,870 --> 00:54:55,680
but it could also be used to protect

1461
00:55:01,270 --> 00:54:58,880
them about being forced to say something

1462
00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:01,280
under oath publicly

1463
00:55:05,030 --> 00:55:02,799
that in fact

1464
00:55:07,270 --> 00:55:05,040
legally they shouldn't do

1465
00:55:08,230 --> 00:55:07,280
all right

1466
00:55:11,030 --> 00:55:08,240
but

1467
00:55:12,789 --> 00:55:11,040
that's not

1468
00:55:15,829 --> 00:55:12,799
that doesn't quite properly describe the

1469
00:55:17,750 --> 00:55:15,839
situation okay here's the situation

1470
00:55:19,270 --> 00:55:17,760
look

1471
00:55:21,589 --> 00:55:19,280
the people that are gonna come forward

1472
00:55:24,150 --> 00:55:21,599
to testify under both

1473
00:55:27,670 --> 00:55:26,630
are not criminals

1474
00:55:29,670 --> 00:55:27,680
so

1475
00:55:31,990 --> 00:55:29,680
by and large i mean it's highly unlikely

1476
00:55:33,910 --> 00:55:32,000
that any of them they're all basically

1477
00:55:36,549 --> 00:55:33,920
people who have important things to say

1478
00:55:37,829 --> 00:55:36,559
they couldn't say them before all right

1479
00:55:40,630 --> 00:55:37,839
and they will come up to the hill and

1480
00:55:42,390 --> 00:55:40,640
they will testify under oath

1481
00:55:45,030 --> 00:55:42,400
and because they are they've already

1482
00:55:46,710 --> 00:55:45,040
taken an oath as a member of uh of the

1483
00:55:48,789 --> 00:55:46,720
national security structures or any of

1484
00:55:49,910 --> 00:55:48,799
the services this will be their second

1485
00:55:52,789 --> 00:55:49,920
oath

1486
00:55:53,829 --> 00:55:52,799
and so they are going to tell the truth

1487
00:55:56,230 --> 00:55:53,839
now

1488
00:55:58,789 --> 00:55:56,240
if any member of congress

1489
00:56:02,069 --> 00:55:58,799
uh committee member asks them about

1490
00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:02,079
something that is in fact classified

1491
00:56:06,150 --> 00:56:04,640
that they are not supposed to discuss

1492
00:56:08,390 --> 00:56:06,160
publicly

1493
00:56:09,109 --> 00:56:08,400
all they have to do is say

1494
00:56:15,109 --> 00:56:09,119
uh

1495
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:15,119
speak to that in a classified session

1496
00:56:18,309 --> 00:56:16,720
and i'll be happy to do so and of course

1497
00:56:20,309 --> 00:56:18,319
that's then they'll ask that same

1498
00:56:22,150 --> 00:56:20,319
question in classified session there's

1499
00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:22,160
no reason that any person is going to be

1500
00:56:25,750 --> 00:56:24,000
forced all right now look i don't care

1501
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:25,760
you know you need to say this publicly

1502
00:56:31,190 --> 00:56:28,240
we're not going to go no no no okay

1503
00:56:33,990 --> 00:56:31,200
and so they don't need amnesty for that

1504
00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:34,000
right you just don't need it okay

1505
00:56:37,430 --> 00:56:35,599
now let's talk about truth and

1506
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:37,440
reconciliation

1507
00:56:42,789 --> 00:56:41,200
which would be a which would be it would

1508
00:56:44,870 --> 00:56:42,799
be a law that would have to be passed

1509
00:56:45,990 --> 00:56:44,880
the amnesty would also be a law probably

1510
00:56:48,069 --> 00:56:46,000
yeah both of them would have to be

1511
00:56:49,910 --> 00:56:48,079
legislated truth and reconciliation is

1512
00:56:53,910 --> 00:56:49,920
not something else

1513
00:56:55,190 --> 00:56:53,920
it's about somebody active or retired

1514
00:56:56,230 --> 00:56:55,200
uh

1515
00:56:58,870 --> 00:56:56,240
who

1516
00:57:02,470 --> 00:56:58,880
in servicing the truth embargo

1517
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:02,480
has committed illegal acts

1518
00:57:06,470 --> 00:57:04,400
either by order

1519
00:57:08,150 --> 00:57:06,480
or freelance

1520
00:57:10,069 --> 00:57:08,160
meaning okay the truth embargoes got to

1521
00:57:11,349 --> 00:57:10,079
be protected and that's going on and i'm

1522
00:57:13,910 --> 00:57:11,359
going to go over here and i'm going to

1523
00:57:17,270 --> 00:57:15,109
for instance

1524
00:57:19,750 --> 00:57:17,280
let's go all the way back to 1947. we

1525
00:57:21,670 --> 00:57:19,760
have witnesses about how

1526
00:57:25,829 --> 00:57:21,680
army people

1527
00:57:27,910 --> 00:57:25,839
some civilian operatives from uh

1528
00:57:29,670 --> 00:57:27,920
intelligence we're going around roswell

1529
00:57:31,910 --> 00:57:29,680
and threatening the hell out of some

1530
00:57:33,349 --> 00:57:31,920
nice people in roswell meaning if you if

1531
00:57:35,589 --> 00:57:33,359
you say anything about what you have

1532
00:57:37,349 --> 00:57:35,599
seen regarding this event yeah we're

1533
00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:37,359
going to take you and your family and on

1534
00:57:41,910 --> 00:57:40,240
a one-way trip to the deep desert

1535
00:57:43,349 --> 00:57:41,920
and you're not coming back

1536
00:57:45,670 --> 00:57:43,359
uh

1537
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:45,680
some some may view that as illegal

1538
00:57:49,510 --> 00:57:47,520
okay and say that was that was that

1539
00:57:51,829 --> 00:57:49,520
violated no you can't do that it's

1540
00:57:54,390 --> 00:57:51,839
illegal and uh

1541
00:57:57,030 --> 00:57:54,400
you know sergeant whatever you're gonna

1542
00:57:58,309 --> 00:57:57,040
have to be accountable for that

1543
00:57:59,750 --> 00:57:58,319
that's not gonna be a problem because

1544
00:58:02,470 --> 00:57:59,760
they're all dead

1545
00:58:04,630 --> 00:58:02,480
okay but you get my point

1546
00:58:06,870 --> 00:58:04,640
legal illegal don't know all right

1547
00:58:09,030 --> 00:58:06,880
however there may be some instances

1548
00:58:11,030 --> 00:58:09,040
where things were done

1549
00:58:12,789 --> 00:58:11,040
not that long ago

1550
00:58:14,710 --> 00:58:12,799
which any reasonable person would

1551
00:58:16,630 --> 00:58:14,720
consider absolutely illegal and if it

1552
00:58:18,069 --> 00:58:16,640
was freelance meaning they they weren't

1553
00:58:20,150 --> 00:58:18,079
they weren't under orders they took it

1554
00:58:21,349 --> 00:58:20,160
in their own to do this then they

1555
00:58:23,510 --> 00:58:21,359
technically have committed an illegal

1556
00:58:26,309 --> 00:58:23,520
illegal act

1557
00:58:28,230 --> 00:58:26,319
however okay that said

1558
00:58:29,670 --> 00:58:28,240
what happened we need to know about

1559
00:58:30,789 --> 00:58:29,680
right it's important that we know about

1560
00:58:31,670 --> 00:58:30,799
these things

1561
00:58:33,829 --> 00:58:31,680
uh

1562
00:58:36,630 --> 00:58:33,839
because we we we don't want to do this

1563
00:58:37,910 --> 00:58:36,640
anymore you know it's like you know we

1564
00:58:39,670 --> 00:58:37,920
really don't want to have any more

1565
00:58:42,390 --> 00:58:39,680
embargoes like this we don't want to go

1566
00:58:43,910 --> 00:58:42,400
down this road any longer it's already

1567
00:58:45,750 --> 00:58:43,920
damaged the hell out of the government

1568
00:58:48,870 --> 00:58:45,760
undermine trust across the board

1569
00:58:51,589 --> 00:58:48,880
contributed to the chaos we have now uh

1570
00:58:53,430 --> 00:58:51,599
uh exposed us to

1571
00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:53,440
you know minimized our ability to deal

1572
00:58:55,670 --> 00:58:54,960
with the nuclear issue and on and on and

1573
00:58:58,630 --> 00:58:55,680
on

1574
00:59:00,309 --> 00:58:58,640
so we really want to hear from these

1575
00:59:01,349 --> 00:59:00,319
people and i don't think there's a lot

1576
00:59:03,190 --> 00:59:01,359
of this

1577
00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:03,200
much less than what was involved in the

1578
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:05,040
apartheid situation in south africa

1579
00:59:09,190 --> 00:59:07,119
where you had a host of people that did

1580
00:59:11,910 --> 00:59:09,200
awful things and the new government

1581
00:59:16,150 --> 00:59:11,920
wanted to know about it and so uh

1582
00:59:17,349 --> 00:59:16,160
with a lot of support uh by desmond tutu

1583
00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:17,359
ultimately they got a truth and

1584
00:59:21,030 --> 00:59:19,359
reconciliation act in south africa so a

1585
00:59:23,190 --> 00:59:21,040
whole bunch of people could come forward

1586
00:59:26,309 --> 00:59:23,200
and say i did this i did that i did this

1587
00:59:27,430 --> 00:59:26,319
and it was not good but they were not

1588
00:59:29,910 --> 00:59:27,440
going to their lives were going to

1589
00:59:31,829 --> 00:59:29,920
continue all right they were reconciled

1590
00:59:34,309 --> 00:59:31,839
but they had to tell the whole truth

1591
00:59:37,030 --> 00:59:34,319
okay yeah there's not that many people

1592
00:59:38,870 --> 00:59:37,040
here there are maybe some and so truth

1593
00:59:39,990 --> 00:59:38,880
and reconciliation may be appropriate

1594
00:59:41,750 --> 00:59:40,000
for them

1595
00:59:43,589 --> 00:59:41,760
but that'll be post-disclosure not

1596
00:59:46,710 --> 00:59:43,599
pre-disclosure okay and so

1597
00:59:49,829 --> 00:59:46,720
post-disclosure i fully support

1598
00:59:52,710 --> 00:59:49,839
truth and reconciliation legislation

1599
00:59:54,789 --> 00:59:52,720
that will increase our ability to get

1600
00:59:57,589 --> 00:59:54,799
everything we need to know about what

1601
01:00:00,309 --> 00:59:57,599
the hell happened between 1947 and now

1602
01:00:02,710 --> 01:00:00,319
even if it involves some illegal acts

1603
01:00:04,230 --> 01:00:02,720
that people would uh have a problem with

1604
01:00:05,510 --> 01:00:04,240
if they are able to talk to us about

1605
01:00:07,589 --> 01:00:05,520
that okay

1606
01:00:09,750 --> 01:00:07,599
with respect to amnesty

1607
01:00:11,910 --> 01:00:09,760
okay

1608
01:00:43,589 --> 01:00:11,920
i

1609
01:00:45,589 --> 01:00:43,599
concerned about

1610
01:00:47,109 --> 01:00:45,599
they could just say that's okay that's

1611
01:00:50,069 --> 01:00:47,119
okay commander it's all right that's

1612
01:00:52,069 --> 01:00:50,079
okay we'll we'll deal with that later

1613
01:00:54,069 --> 01:00:52,079
okay well okay oh fine but aren't you

1614
01:00:56,950 --> 01:00:54,079
limiting no well

1615
01:00:58,150 --> 01:00:56,960
that's a very small limitation

1616
01:01:00,309 --> 01:00:58,160
however

1617
01:01:02,150 --> 01:01:00,319
talking about amnesty now

1618
01:01:04,789 --> 01:01:02,160
trying to go there just helps delay the

1619
01:01:06,789 --> 01:01:04,799
process one but two

1620
01:01:08,230 --> 01:01:06,799
it sort of implies

1621
01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:08,240
to the world

1622
01:01:12,069 --> 01:01:10,720
that these people have got issues

1623
01:01:14,069 --> 01:01:12,079
right we got to have amnesty for all

1624
01:01:15,270 --> 01:01:14,079
these witnesses because boy they're all

1625
01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:15,280
walking up to the hill with all these

1626
01:01:19,109 --> 01:01:16,960
issues in other words we're really it's

1627
01:01:21,829 --> 01:01:19,119
intimidating and it's really giving a

1628
01:01:23,030 --> 01:01:21,839
false representation of of the status of

1629
01:01:25,430 --> 01:01:23,040
these witnesses

1630
01:01:27,750 --> 01:01:25,440
right almost none of them have any need

1631
01:01:29,990 --> 01:01:27,760
for amnesty and so talking about it is

1632
01:01:31,589 --> 01:01:30,000
giving this indication oh my god

1633
01:01:33,109 --> 01:01:31,599
right we got to get amnesty because

1634
01:01:34,630 --> 01:01:33,119
these people are compromised as hell no

1635
01:01:37,349 --> 01:01:34,640
that is not the case

1636
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:37,359
and so my position is this we don't need

1637
01:01:41,109 --> 01:01:39,040
amnesty and let's don't talk about it

1638
01:01:42,950 --> 01:01:41,119
unless we're talking about it as it has

1639
01:01:44,950 --> 01:01:42,960
it may be needed in the post-disclosure

1640
01:01:47,190 --> 01:01:44,960
world as we start getting into the much

1641
01:01:48,789 --> 01:01:47,200
more granular stuff you know really

1642
01:01:51,190 --> 01:01:48,799
getting down into the weeds to get the

1643
01:01:53,109 --> 01:01:51,200
details so that we can understand

1644
01:01:56,630 --> 01:01:53,119
everything that happened

1645
01:01:58,390 --> 01:01:56,640
between 1947 and disclosure

1646
01:01:59,829 --> 01:01:58,400
there may be a number of people that

1647
01:02:01,510 --> 01:01:59,839
would be nice if they had amnesty in

1648
01:02:03,750 --> 01:02:01,520
case in the

1649
01:02:05,190 --> 01:02:03,760
in the the tumult of the post-disclosure

1650
01:02:06,870 --> 01:02:05,200
world were people coming forward saying

1651
01:02:08,710 --> 01:02:06,880
this saying that they oh my goodness

1652
01:02:09,510 --> 01:02:08,720
screwed up and i shouldn't have said

1653
01:02:12,549 --> 01:02:09,520
that

1654
01:02:14,549 --> 01:02:12,559
uh and and the dod comes to him and says

1655
01:02:16,950 --> 01:02:14,559
boy you really shouldn't have said that

1656
01:02:19,109 --> 01:02:16,960
you know and he said i'm very very sorry

1657
01:02:20,710 --> 01:02:19,119
but the dod will say okay but don't

1658
01:02:22,789 --> 01:02:20,720
worry you're not going to have a problem

1659
01:02:23,670 --> 01:02:22,799
because uh under the amnesty act it's

1660
01:02:26,390 --> 01:02:23,680
okay

1661
01:02:28,069 --> 01:02:26,400
right it's all right you're forgiven so

1662
01:02:30,549 --> 01:02:28,079
that's that's my view you see how

1663
01:02:31,829 --> 01:02:30,559
complicated this is absolutely yeah i

1664
01:02:33,430 --> 01:02:31,839
appreciate the chance to say that

1665
01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:33,440
because you know i'm hoping other people

1666
01:02:36,789 --> 01:02:34,480
will share

1667
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:36,799
that because that is non-trivial

1668
01:02:41,270 --> 01:02:39,119
remember every one of these witnesses

1669
01:02:43,109 --> 01:02:41,280
that are going to come forward

1670
01:02:45,510 --> 01:02:43,119
even though whether they want to or not

1671
01:02:46,789 --> 01:02:45,520
most of them want to still are facing

1672
01:02:48,549 --> 01:02:46,799
having to go

1673
01:02:50,309 --> 01:02:48,559
and sit

1674
01:02:52,950 --> 01:02:50,319
like we're seeing witnesses right now in

1675
01:02:55,829 --> 01:02:52,960
the hill sit in a chair take an oath and

1676
01:02:57,670 --> 01:02:55,839
be seen by tens of millions of people

1677
01:03:00,470 --> 01:02:57,680
talking about the most controversial

1678
01:03:02,470 --> 01:03:00,480
issue in history and so it's not like

1679
01:03:04,150 --> 01:03:02,480
you know they want to be there but it's

1680
01:03:05,430 --> 01:03:04,160
not going to be a walk in the park and

1681
01:03:06,950 --> 01:03:05,440
we don't want to do anything to make it

1682
01:03:08,150 --> 01:03:06,960
any harder than it needs to be

1683
01:03:09,270 --> 01:03:08,160
absolutely

1684
01:03:10,870 --> 01:03:09,280
that's a good point i never really

1685
01:03:12,710 --> 01:03:10,880
looked at it in that respect with

1686
01:03:14,630 --> 01:03:12,720
regards to amnesty but you've made a

1687
01:03:16,789 --> 01:03:14,640
very good point and i hope that

1688
01:03:18,710 --> 01:03:16,799
people pick up on that because it's it's

1689
01:03:20,470 --> 01:03:18,720
certainly an interesting slant to what

1690
01:03:21,670 --> 01:03:20,480
everyone thinks of amnesty is just you

1691
01:03:23,910 --> 01:03:21,680
know

1692
01:03:25,270 --> 01:03:23,920
letting people speak freely but it does

1693
01:03:26,710 --> 01:03:25,280
give that impression that there is

1694
01:03:28,309 --> 01:03:26,720
something wrong before they've even

1695
01:03:29,829 --> 01:03:28,319
spoken so

1696
01:03:31,910 --> 01:03:29,839
yeah i see where you're coming from now

1697
01:03:33,270 --> 01:03:31,920
listen steve before we go i want to read

1698
01:03:35,670 --> 01:03:33,280
out a couple of great questions that

1699
01:03:38,230 --> 01:03:35,680
i've got from the audience here uh elena

1700
01:03:40,549 --> 01:03:38,240
campbell asks uh is this the the year

1701
01:03:42,549 --> 01:03:40,559
for world disclosure day

1702
01:03:45,270 --> 01:03:42,559
or do you think we're past that but also

1703
01:03:47,190 --> 01:03:45,280
the curve of the paradigm clock

1704
01:03:48,630 --> 01:03:47,200
seems akin to drifting closer to the

1705
01:03:49,829 --> 01:03:48,640
singularity

1706
01:03:51,430 --> 01:03:49,839
so if you could just talk about the

1707
01:03:53,109 --> 01:03:51,440
clock that would be well the keratin

1708
01:03:55,190 --> 01:03:53,119
clock is something that i created a long

1709
01:03:58,710 --> 01:03:55,200
time ago and i managed it for a long

1710
01:04:00,309 --> 01:03:58,720
time and i've stopped managing it uh uh

1711
01:04:02,470 --> 01:04:00,319
i maybe i'll

1712
01:04:04,390 --> 01:04:02,480
reset it get i think i want to try to

1713
01:04:06,710 --> 01:04:04,400
bring that back to life a little bit

1714
01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:06,720
uh so i'll do that i'll reset it real

1715
01:04:10,789 --> 01:04:09,200
close to midnight no question

1716
01:04:13,430 --> 01:04:10,799
um

1717
01:04:14,789 --> 01:04:13,440
so there's that and then another thing

1718
01:04:17,430 --> 01:04:14,799
that i'm going to bring back to life is

1719
01:04:19,109 --> 01:04:17,440
world disclosure day which i i uh

1720
01:04:20,150 --> 01:04:19,119
uh sort of made a thing a number of

1721
01:04:22,390 --> 01:04:20,160
years ago

1722
01:04:24,230 --> 01:04:22,400
it has a it has a website and i at

1723
01:04:25,990 --> 01:04:24,240
worlddisclosureday.org

1724
01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:26,000
i encourage people to go to it i'm going

1725
01:04:29,510 --> 01:04:27,359
to see if i can't bring it back to life

1726
01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:29,520
i think i've got about 5 000 people

1727
01:04:35,109 --> 01:04:33,440
that's that emailed in using a form uh

1728
01:04:37,270 --> 01:04:35,119
their support for it

1729
01:04:39,270 --> 01:04:37,280
uh and i think it's time to

1730
01:04:41,190 --> 01:04:39,280
invigorate that yes

1731
01:04:43,029 --> 01:04:41,200
i set you know because there's always

1732
01:04:45,349 --> 01:04:43,039
there's been a world ufo day for some

1733
01:04:47,190 --> 01:04:45,359
time and as you know it gets a lot of

1734
01:04:49,430 --> 01:04:47,200
press and recently it got some more

1735
01:04:52,230 --> 01:04:49,440
press and i think it's july the fourth

1736
01:04:53,829 --> 01:04:52,240
or fifth thanks to four and that's fine

1737
01:04:56,670 --> 01:04:53,839
but you know my attitude about this it's

1738
01:04:59,430 --> 01:04:56,680
not about ufos it's about uh

1739
01:05:01,910 --> 01:04:59,440
extraterrestrial presence and the

1740
01:05:03,990 --> 01:05:01,920
problem is ending the truth embargo

1741
01:05:06,870 --> 01:05:04,000
and so i created world disclosure day

1742
01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:06,880
which is meant to be the day to quote

1743
01:05:11,109 --> 01:05:10,000
recognize the disclosure process yeah

1744
01:05:13,670 --> 01:05:11,119
now

1745
01:05:14,789 --> 01:05:13,680
i set that date as as july the 8th as

1746
01:05:17,029 --> 01:05:14,799
opposed to

1747
01:05:18,549 --> 01:05:17,039
the fourth the world the world ufo day

1748
01:05:19,589 --> 01:05:18,559
is kind of based on

1749
01:05:22,390 --> 01:05:19,599
when

1750
01:05:23,910 --> 01:05:22,400
the roswell crash was engaged

1751
01:05:26,390 --> 01:05:23,920
right and i think kind of when they

1752
01:05:27,990 --> 01:05:26,400
think it happened we don't really know

1753
01:05:29,270 --> 01:05:28,000
uh but it's in that it's about that it's

1754
01:05:31,589 --> 01:05:29,280
about the crash

1755
01:05:33,829 --> 01:05:31,599
world uf uh disclosure day

1756
01:05:36,789 --> 01:05:33,839
was set for a specific date july 8th and

1757
01:05:39,349 --> 01:05:36,799
the reason i chose that day is july the

1758
01:05:41,829 --> 01:05:39,359
8th is the day that evening early

1759
01:05:44,549 --> 01:05:41,839
evening when roger raymie held the new

1760
01:05:45,750 --> 01:05:44,559
press conference and made jesse marcel

1761
01:05:47,670 --> 01:05:45,760
hold up a

1762
01:05:50,630 --> 01:05:47,680
a bunch of reynolds wrap that had been

1763
01:05:52,069 --> 01:05:50,640
in general freezer wrapped around some

1764
01:05:54,230 --> 01:05:52,079
some trout

1765
01:05:56,150 --> 01:05:54,240
and say no it was a weather balloon

1766
01:05:58,549 --> 01:05:56,160
okay to me that is the

1767
01:06:00,309 --> 01:05:58,559
probably the best form the way the best

1768
01:06:02,230 --> 01:06:00,319
form of formal beginning of the truth of

1769
01:06:04,549 --> 01:06:02,240
barbara that's when it really begins in

1770
01:06:06,789 --> 01:06:04,559
some sort of formal way all right and so

1771
01:06:08,069 --> 01:06:06,799
i i made it that now world disclosure

1772
01:06:09,510 --> 01:06:08,079
day ultimately is not going to be the

1773
01:06:11,349 --> 01:06:09,520
july the 8th though they still have a

1774
01:06:13,349 --> 01:06:11,359
little time that's going to be another

1775
01:06:15,589 --> 01:06:13,359
date and what i've said publicly in the

1776
01:06:17,430 --> 01:06:15,599
past is the moment that happens the day

1777
01:06:19,990 --> 01:06:17,440
that the president of the united states

1778
01:06:22,230 --> 01:06:20,000
discloses say it's um

1779
01:06:23,750 --> 01:06:22,240
september five okay okay i will

1780
01:06:25,589 --> 01:06:23,760
immediately go to my site and change

1781
01:06:27,190 --> 01:06:25,599
this world

1782
01:06:29,109 --> 01:06:27,200
reply all right

1783
01:06:30,710 --> 01:06:29,119
but now that we're this close i think

1784
01:06:32,470 --> 01:06:30,720
i'm gonna see if i can bring it to live

1785
01:06:33,589 --> 01:06:32,480
life again and get people thinking about

1786
01:06:35,990 --> 01:06:33,599
that

1787
01:06:37,670 --> 01:06:36,000
and and uh saying hey uh you know this

1788
01:06:39,190 --> 01:06:37,680
is another way to have some fun support

1789
01:06:40,710 --> 01:06:39,200
world disclosure day

1790
01:06:43,270 --> 01:06:40,720
so um

1791
01:06:45,670 --> 01:06:43,280
that's that's what's going on there uh

1792
01:06:47,910 --> 01:06:45,680
and i'll i think i'll i i put the clock

1793
01:06:50,710 --> 01:06:47,920
up many times as part of some posting

1794
01:06:53,029 --> 01:06:50,720
that i'm doing on social media yeah um

1795
01:06:55,430 --> 01:06:53,039
uh and and that's about

1796
01:06:58,069 --> 01:06:55,440
the race between disclosure and nuclear

1797
01:06:59,430 --> 01:06:58,079
war i i i condensed the whole damn thing

1798
01:07:02,630 --> 01:06:59,440
going on right now around the world to

1799
01:07:04,549 --> 01:07:02,640
this it's like you know my geo politics

1800
01:07:06,470 --> 01:07:04,559
is basically this you know whatever else

1801
01:07:07,910 --> 01:07:06,480
is going on it's it's secondary to the

1802
01:07:10,230 --> 01:07:07,920
fact that there's a race going on

1803
01:07:11,990 --> 01:07:10,240
between the the doomsday clock and the

1804
01:07:13,670 --> 01:07:12,000
paradigm clock yeah thursday clock

1805
01:07:15,190 --> 01:07:13,680
midnight that's nuclear war that's a bad

1806
01:07:16,630 --> 01:07:15,200
thing uh

1807
01:07:17,990 --> 01:07:16,640
uh

1808
01:07:20,470 --> 01:07:18,000
midnight on the paradigm clock is

1809
01:07:22,549 --> 01:07:20,480
disclosure that's a good thing all right

1810
01:07:24,630 --> 01:07:22,559
the parent that this the doomsday clock

1811
01:07:25,829 --> 01:07:24,640
is now the closest to midnight ever 100

1812
01:07:27,670 --> 01:07:25,839
seconds

1813
01:07:29,910 --> 01:07:27,680
and that's not a trivial thing this is

1814
01:07:31,349 --> 01:07:29,920
the bolton atomic scientist and they

1815
01:07:33,109 --> 01:07:31,359
posted it and you can find their

1816
01:07:35,029 --> 01:07:33,119
announcement about that it went down a

1817
01:07:37,910 --> 01:07:35,039
year ago and all the reasons why they

1818
01:07:39,990 --> 01:07:37,920
made it 100 seconds to midnight and let

1819
01:07:41,990 --> 01:07:40,000
me let me say this i think it should be

1820
01:07:44,230 --> 01:07:42,000
closer than that but 100 seconds is

1821
01:07:47,349 --> 01:07:44,240
close enough all right um

1822
01:07:49,589 --> 01:07:47,359
and we are we are we are we are dancing

1823
01:07:51,510 --> 01:07:49,599
on the edge of the volcano with respect

1824
01:07:53,190 --> 01:07:51,520
to nuclear war right now i've talked

1825
01:07:54,710 --> 01:07:53,200
about that a great deal most people are

1826
01:07:57,109 --> 01:07:54,720
tired of hearing about it i get it but

1827
01:07:59,349 --> 01:07:57,119
if the rockets fly forgive me for being

1828
01:08:01,589 --> 01:07:59,359
right now in terms of

1829
01:08:03,750 --> 01:08:01,599
the disclosure clock

1830
01:08:06,870 --> 01:08:03,760
uh again we're close on that

1831
01:08:09,349 --> 01:08:06,880
and and the and the equation the math

1832
01:08:11,349 --> 01:08:09,359
math here is very simple

1833
01:08:14,230 --> 01:08:11,359
it's not hard to figure out

1834
01:08:15,190 --> 01:08:14,240
if the doomsday clock hits midnight

1835
01:08:18,390 --> 01:08:15,200
first

1836
01:08:21,430 --> 01:08:18,400
the disclosure clock doesn't matter okay

1837
01:08:23,430 --> 01:08:21,440
it doesn't matter i you know maybe the

1838
01:08:25,189 --> 01:08:23,440
president will survive the nuclear war

1839
01:08:27,110 --> 01:08:25,199
and from a bunker somewhere under the

1840
01:08:28,470 --> 01:08:27,120
denver airport they'll put out an

1841
01:08:31,590 --> 01:08:28,480
announcement

1842
01:08:32,950 --> 01:08:31,600
uh so sorry what happened up there

1843
01:08:34,950 --> 01:08:32,960
you know i know it's kind of rough on

1844
01:08:37,430 --> 01:08:34,960
you people uh though the bunker down

1845
01:08:39,110 --> 01:08:37,440
here is rather quite nice uh but yeah

1846
01:08:41,669 --> 01:08:39,120
there is an extraterrestrial presence

1847
01:08:43,749 --> 01:08:41,679
i'm sorry we didn't tell you sooner okay

1848
01:08:45,349 --> 01:08:43,759
who gives a [\h__\h] and so consequently

1849
01:08:47,990 --> 01:08:45,359
that's okay but

1850
01:08:49,189 --> 01:08:48,000
if the disclosure clock hits midnight

1851
01:08:52,070 --> 01:08:49,199
first

1852
01:08:53,590 --> 01:08:52,080
i can make a realistic case it may be

1853
01:08:56,630 --> 01:08:53,600
the one thing

1854
01:09:00,229 --> 01:08:56,640
that makes it possible to prevent

1855
01:09:01,269 --> 01:09:00,239
the doomsday clock from ever striking

1856
01:09:03,590 --> 01:09:01,279
midnight

1857
01:09:05,749 --> 01:09:03,600
and that's the math and if anybody

1858
01:09:07,829 --> 01:09:05,759
doesn't get that math you know email me

1859
01:09:10,550 --> 01:09:07,839
and i'll explain it to you again

1860
01:09:12,149 --> 01:09:10,560
it's not complicated one of those clocks

1861
01:09:13,349 --> 01:09:12,159
is going to get to midnight first i

1862
01:09:15,990 --> 01:09:13,359
assure you

1863
01:09:18,630 --> 01:09:16,000
and it better be the disclosure clock

1864
01:09:20,789 --> 01:09:18,640
now if just because we get disclosure

1865
01:09:22,630 --> 01:09:20,799
and we have and we and and uh when we

1866
01:09:24,229 --> 01:09:22,640
get midnight on the the disclosure

1867
01:09:25,430 --> 01:09:24,239
paradigm clock rather forgive me

1868
01:09:27,110 --> 01:09:25,440
paranoid

1869
01:09:29,749 --> 01:09:27,120
doesn't mean we can't still have nuclear

1870
01:09:32,149 --> 01:09:29,759
war oh we can't yeah we could have it

1871
01:09:33,829 --> 01:09:32,159
i'm just saying that i think we have a

1872
01:09:35,669 --> 01:09:33,839
better chance of not having it and

1873
01:09:37,189 --> 01:09:35,679
anything that helps us not have it

1874
01:09:40,630 --> 01:09:37,199
that's a good thing

1875
01:09:42,229 --> 01:09:40,640
okay a very good thing and so you know

1876
01:09:43,189 --> 01:09:42,239
if i ever get on cnn that's the first

1877
01:09:44,550 --> 01:09:43,199
thing i'm going to say they're going to

1878
01:09:45,829 --> 01:09:44,560
say steve what's the weather out there

1879
01:09:47,269 --> 01:09:45,839
and i'm going to say look i'm going to

1880
01:09:48,950 --> 01:09:47,279
explain to you the difference between

1881
01:09:50,789 --> 01:09:48,960
the disclosure

1882
01:09:52,070 --> 01:09:50,799
and the tube state clock what clock

1883
01:09:53,590 --> 01:09:52,080
clock what are you talking about you

1884
01:09:56,310 --> 01:09:53,600
know and cut that camera get this guy

1885
01:10:00,390 --> 01:09:57,990
listen let's jump onto i've got a couple

1886
01:10:03,030 --> 01:10:00,400
more questions before we wrap it up so

1887
01:10:04,950 --> 01:10:03,040
strafe wilson says um he'd be interested

1888
01:10:07,270 --> 01:10:04,960
in knowing what you think now about dr

1889
01:10:08,870 --> 01:10:07,280
steven greer seeing as it seems that a

1890
01:10:12,149 --> 01:10:08,880
lot of the ufo community have turned

1891
01:10:15,669 --> 01:10:13,350
look

1892
01:10:17,750 --> 01:10:15,679
dr stephen greer

1893
01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:17,760
has made enormous contributions to this

1894
01:10:22,709 --> 01:10:20,400
field going all the way back to the 80s

1895
01:10:24,950 --> 01:10:22,719
uh he had a lot of resources to begin

1896
01:10:27,590 --> 01:10:24,960
with he's put ton of those into the

1897
01:10:28,550 --> 01:10:27,600
effort he's also raised a lot of money

1898
01:10:33,110 --> 01:10:28,560
uh

1899
01:10:36,070 --> 01:10:33,120
his work in relation to disclosure

1900
01:10:39,189 --> 01:10:36,080
is not is not going to be overlooked and

1901
01:10:39,990 --> 01:10:39,199
it's going to be historically important

1902
01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:40,000
uh

1903
01:10:42,870 --> 01:10:41,199
and so

1904
01:10:44,470 --> 01:10:42,880
and every one of us have tried to do

1905
01:10:46,950 --> 01:10:44,480
that what we can

1906
01:10:47,750 --> 01:10:46,960
uh and all of this uh

1907
01:10:49,910 --> 01:10:47,760
uh

1908
01:10:51,430 --> 01:10:49,920
our our track record and what we've done

1909
01:10:52,470 --> 01:10:51,440
we've got people that like it and don't

1910
01:10:53,270 --> 01:10:52,480
like it

1911
01:10:55,189 --> 01:10:53,280
right

1912
01:10:56,550 --> 01:10:55,199
of course i hope no one dislikes me i

1913
01:10:58,310 --> 01:10:56,560
hope it's me

1914
01:11:00,149 --> 01:10:58,320
i'm one of those personalities you hate

1915
01:11:01,590 --> 01:11:00,159
i hate it when somebody doesn't like me

1916
01:11:03,590 --> 01:11:01,600
and i want to call them up and say look

1917
01:11:05,110 --> 01:11:03,600
what can we talk about here let's fix it

1918
01:11:06,870 --> 01:11:05,120
uh and so

1919
01:11:08,550 --> 01:11:06,880
that's what's important

1920
01:11:10,229 --> 01:11:08,560
all right uh

1921
01:11:14,390 --> 01:11:10,239
so i'm more than comfortable in saying

1922
01:11:16,310 --> 01:11:14,400
that and and it's true uh and i i i'm

1923
01:11:18,709 --> 01:11:16,320
i i think i think it'll be a little

1924
01:11:20,550 --> 01:11:18,719
easier in the post-disclosure world

1925
01:11:22,550 --> 01:11:20,560
for everyone in this field to arrive at

1926
01:11:25,350 --> 01:11:22,560
a more proper appreciation for the

1927
01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:25,360
contributions of everyone

1928
01:11:31,030 --> 01:11:28,560
yeah look past their mistakes

1929
01:11:33,350 --> 01:11:31,040
uh and everyone's got them yeah and uh

1930
01:11:35,830 --> 01:11:33,360
we'll all move forward together uh in

1931
01:11:37,990 --> 01:11:35,840
what i hope will be a a new complete era

1932
01:11:39,270 --> 01:11:38,000
in human history absolutely yeah

1933
01:11:41,189 --> 01:11:39,280
couldn't agree more

1934
01:11:43,990 --> 01:11:41,199
the next question comes from john he he

1935
01:11:45,430 --> 01:11:44,000
asks which event in modern times do you

1936
01:11:47,830 --> 01:11:45,440
think is the most has the most

1937
01:11:50,709 --> 01:11:47,840
compelling evidence that ufos are

1938
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:50,719
extraterrestrial

1939
01:11:53,350 --> 01:11:52,000
uh

1940
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:53,360
okay

1941
01:11:56,950 --> 01:11:54,800
it's

1942
01:11:58,950 --> 01:11:56,960
this is purely an opinion

1943
01:12:00,390 --> 01:11:58,960
not a complicated question

1944
01:12:02,790 --> 01:12:00,400
but i like my answer and you're going to

1945
01:12:04,709 --> 01:12:02,800
be hearing me say this a lot

1946
01:12:08,470 --> 01:12:04,719
without question

1947
01:12:10,470 --> 01:12:08,480
the most important evidence

1948
01:12:12,790 --> 01:12:10,480
in terms of

1949
01:12:14,470 --> 01:12:12,800
its confirmation power

1950
01:12:15,430 --> 01:12:14,480
its timing

1951
01:12:17,430 --> 01:12:15,440
right

1952
01:12:18,709 --> 01:12:17,440
and its overall significance

1953
01:12:21,910 --> 01:12:18,719
to the issue and the move and the

1954
01:12:23,189 --> 01:12:21,920
disclosure process is roswell okay the

1955
01:12:25,030 --> 01:12:23,199
crash

1956
01:12:26,630 --> 01:12:25,040
of a non-human

1957
01:12:27,830 --> 01:12:26,640
built

1958
01:12:30,229 --> 01:12:27,840
vehicle

1959
01:12:33,430 --> 01:12:30,239
piloted by non-humans who who were not

1960
01:12:38,229 --> 01:12:33,440
from portugal or minsk or

1961
01:12:39,669 --> 01:12:38,239
anywhere on this planet frankly um

1962
01:12:41,430 --> 01:12:39,679
well maybe they were born here one of

1963
01:12:43,030 --> 01:12:41,440
their bases but it's not like their

1964
01:12:45,110 --> 01:12:43,040
their ancestors were here you know

1965
01:12:46,709 --> 01:12:45,120
they're from outside our solar system

1966
01:12:49,669 --> 01:12:46,719
uh it's been proven beyond a reasonable

1967
01:12:50,870 --> 01:12:49,679
doubt it was proven by a huge amount of

1968
01:12:54,070 --> 01:12:50,880
research

1969
01:12:55,910 --> 01:12:54,080
than this

1970
01:12:58,149 --> 01:12:55,920
and the the the

1971
01:12:59,830 --> 01:12:58,159
two researchers that particularly stand

1972
01:13:00,630 --> 01:12:59,840
out and i'm not diminishing any of the

1973
01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:00,640
others

1974
01:13:04,550 --> 01:13:02,480
is that donald schmidt and thomas carey

1975
01:13:06,070 --> 01:13:04,560
they wrote several books on roswell

1976
01:13:09,270 --> 01:13:06,080
including the witness to roswell which

1977
01:13:13,189 --> 01:13:09,280
is the summon bonum of their work

1978
01:13:15,350 --> 01:13:13,199
they interviewed hundreds of witnesses

1979
01:13:17,350 --> 01:13:15,360
many of who are now dead

1980
01:13:18,630 --> 01:13:17,360
they got forgive me they got bed

1981
01:13:19,990 --> 01:13:18,640
confessions

1982
01:13:21,910 --> 01:13:20,000
and if the person was dead they

1983
01:13:23,669 --> 01:13:21,920
interviewed their kids

1984
01:13:25,110 --> 01:13:23,679
yeah yeah

1985
01:13:26,390 --> 01:13:25,120
and

1986
01:13:28,870 --> 01:13:26,400
forgive me

1987
01:13:30,950 --> 01:13:28,880
and so all i can say is if you read

1988
01:13:33,110 --> 01:13:30,960
witness to roswell

1989
01:13:34,550 --> 01:13:33,120
and maybe a couple of others just

1990
01:13:36,149 --> 01:13:34,560
as the main course and a couple of other

1991
01:13:38,070 --> 01:13:36,159
side dishes

1992
01:13:40,709 --> 01:13:38,080
if you are a reasonable person you will

1993
01:13:41,990 --> 01:13:40,719
get the fact that roswell absolutely

1994
01:13:44,470 --> 01:13:42,000
happened

1995
01:13:46,630 --> 01:13:44,480
and that's that's it

1996
01:13:47,750 --> 01:13:46,640
once you get there that's that's it case

1997
01:13:50,149 --> 01:13:47,760
closed

1998
01:13:51,750 --> 01:13:50,159
and but the most important thing that i

1999
01:13:53,430 --> 01:13:51,760
add to that and why this particular

2000
01:13:55,669 --> 01:13:53,440
event is so critical

2001
01:13:58,310 --> 01:13:55,679
is that guess what

2002
01:14:01,110 --> 01:13:58,320
the government knows all about roswell

2003
01:14:03,590 --> 01:14:01,120
right the soviets knew about roswell the

2004
01:14:05,750 --> 01:14:03,600
uk knew about roswell right they all

2005
01:14:07,910 --> 01:14:05,760
knew about roswell maybe china came late

2006
01:14:09,590 --> 01:14:07,920
to the to the game because china was

2007
01:14:13,110 --> 01:14:09,600
going through a you know much more

2008
01:14:16,630 --> 01:14:13,120
complex situation there uh involving uh

2009
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:16,640
uh korea and and and the

2010
01:14:29,750 --> 01:14:17,840
the

2011
01:14:31,590 --> 01:14:29,760
how bizarre this is and so yeah roswell

2012
01:14:33,189 --> 01:14:31,600
and i and i can't say it enough there

2013
01:14:35,030 --> 01:14:33,199
are plenty of books out in there roswell

2014
01:14:36,070 --> 01:14:35,040
read them all a lot of them are

2015
01:14:38,390 --> 01:14:36,080
you can read them for practically

2016
01:14:39,270 --> 01:14:38,400
nothing but if you're going to read one

2017
01:14:41,430 --> 01:14:39,280
book

2018
01:14:43,030 --> 01:14:41,440
on this subject you just got to this

2019
01:14:44,709 --> 01:14:43,040
subject because you you opened up the

2020
01:14:47,110 --> 01:14:44,719
paper and you saw that they're having a

2021
01:14:49,350 --> 01:14:47,120
uap hearing what the hell is that

2022
01:14:50,950 --> 01:14:49,360
and you watch it go what is going on

2023
01:14:53,430 --> 01:14:50,960
here i got to get into this

2024
01:14:56,149 --> 01:14:53,440
aside from the 80 billion things on

2025
01:14:56,830 --> 01:14:56,159
internet that you could go check out go

2026
01:15:02,550 --> 01:14:56,840
to

2027
01:15:04,310 --> 01:15:02,560
and kindle and read that one book

2028
01:15:05,750 --> 01:15:04,320
and keep an open mind

2029
01:15:07,590 --> 01:15:05,760
and by the time you're finished that

2030
01:15:08,870 --> 01:15:07,600
book you're going to be going holy

2031
01:15:11,189 --> 01:15:08,880
mackerel

2032
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:11,199
some et's crashed in 1947 and roswell

2033
01:15:15,110 --> 01:15:12,400
and the government's known about it ever

2034
01:15:16,149 --> 01:15:15,120
since okay now i'm paying attention

2035
01:15:17,910 --> 01:15:16,159
right

2036
01:15:18,870 --> 01:15:17,920
give me give me you know give me more

2037
01:15:20,470 --> 01:15:18,880
okay

2038
01:15:22,149 --> 01:15:20,480
that's the best answer i got to that

2039
01:15:23,590 --> 01:15:22,159
question and all the other stuff that's

2040
01:15:25,669 --> 01:15:23,600
happened and all the other research i

2041
01:15:27,030 --> 01:15:25,679
love you all right but yeah i was asked

2042
01:15:29,110 --> 01:15:27,040
that question i had to answer it that

2043
01:15:31,030 --> 01:15:29,120
way that's great that's fair enough as

2044
01:15:33,430 --> 01:15:31,040
well listen steve uh you've been

2045
01:15:34,310 --> 01:15:33,440
fantastic as always one thing i will say

2046
01:15:36,870 --> 01:15:34,320
is that

2047
01:15:39,270 --> 01:15:36,880
when these next hearings happen i have

2048
01:15:41,430 --> 01:15:39,280
to have you back on almost immediately

2049
01:15:42,470 --> 01:15:41,440
so you look out for that email because

2050
01:15:43,830 --> 01:15:42,480
it's coming

2051
01:15:46,149 --> 01:15:43,840
look yeah actually you're going to have

2052
01:15:48,550 --> 01:15:46,159
me on sooner than that yeah because i

2053
01:15:51,189 --> 01:15:48,560
have a kind of a big thing i'm about to

2054
01:15:52,470 --> 01:15:51,199
announce okay very big thing yeah so i'm

2055
01:15:54,550 --> 01:15:52,480
going to want to count on your show

2056
01:15:58,229 --> 01:15:54,560
right away absolutely tell everybody

2057
01:16:01,110 --> 01:15:58,239
about it okay yeah so uh just keep keep

2058
01:16:04,229 --> 01:16:01,120
a slot open for uh let me see

2059
01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:04,239
end of july perfect all right perfect

2060
01:16:07,910 --> 01:16:06,000
all right well listen thank you so much

2061
01:16:09,430 --> 01:16:07,920
uh if you just hang around we'll we'll

2062
01:16:11,270 --> 01:16:09,440
say goodbye to everyone in the audience

2063
01:16:12,870 --> 01:16:11,280
thank you so much for being here all

2064
01:16:14,950 --> 01:16:12,880
your questions and everything i'm going

2065
01:16:16,950 --> 01:16:14,960
to be back next monday with ronnie

2066
01:16:18,790 --> 01:16:16,960
vernette who made a presentation at the

2067
01:16:20,390 --> 01:16:18,800
brazilian senate hearings so we're going

2068
01:16:22,070 --> 01:16:20,400
to get right up into all of everything

2069
01:16:25,110 --> 01:16:22,080
that happened in brazil

2070
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:25,120
last week for now guys thank you and we